11) Message boards : News : Important news for Linux crunchers (Message 36767)
Posted 3669 days ago by Profile microchip
microchip,

Looking at the results from your GTX560 machine (#167410), I would say that your GPU is bad.

Matt


I doubt that. I've done stress tests on both its memory and the GPU itself. It passes every time. It crunched without issues in the past the CUDA5 apps. Every since CUDA6 tasks came, they started to fail on it
12) Message boards : News : Important news for Linux crunchers (Message 36740)
Posted 3670 days ago by Profile microchip
I'm still getting errors on the CUDA6 short tasks on my GTX 560. Yes, I tried the boinc version in this thread. Doesn't make a difference. Almost 98% of all CUDA6 tasks error out either immediately or they crunch for some time and then error out. Error codes don't give a clue about what has gone wrong

GPUGRID is the buggiest project I've crunched for thus far
13) Message boards : Number crunching : SWAN : FATAL : Cuda driver error 3 in file 'swanlibnv2.cpp' in line 446. (Message 36574)
Posted 3678 days ago by Profile microchip
Bump?

Still having issues with the CUDA6 tasks. most error out on my GTX 560. They only seem to run reliably on my low-end GT 440. CUDA5 tasks have no problem on both my cards
14) Message boards : Number crunching : SWAN : FATAL : Cuda driver error 3 in file 'swanlibnv2.cpp' in line 446. (Message 36185)
Posted 3691 days ago by Profile microchip
Same here on Linux with latest beta NV driver on Short. Most tasks error out immediately and every once in a while a task completes. All tasks are from SANTI
15) Message boards : Number crunching : What is so hard about Linux? (Message 35072)
Posted 3744 days ago by Profile microchip
Why do you think IBM adopted it? Because the software was so amazing? For Christ's sake, the early versions were bug-filled.

In the initial planning, IBM was pushing its own OS for the PC-compatible, only the BASIC-interpreter was to be made by MS. After time, when IBM saw their new OS didn't progress as planned, they went to MS and MS agreed to deliver the OS. Billy initially planned to write it himself but soon went searching at other firms until he discovered QDOS that MS bought for 50.000 dollars and developed it further.... if you want more history, there's this amazing search engine called Google that can help you

No, because Billy boy exploited yet another opportunity ;)

Ad-hominem attacks to "try another universe" don't work on me ;)

At least you recognize that your earlier version was not accurate. Of course Bill exploited opportunities; you seem to think that is a dirty term. Is that what you call an "Ad-hominem" attack? I can never tell with people trying to argue against history.


Actually, it is accurate. MS does pay HW manufacturers to prefer Win over anything else. Just like it recently paid Samsung, Sony and others to make Windows phones ;) But hey, when you're rich and desperate, why not just buy your way in, huh? ;)

No, i don't think opportunities is a dirty word. What I think is dirty is how it's executed by Billy ;)
16) Message boards : Number crunching : What is so hard about Linux? (Message 35070)
Posted 3744 days ago by Profile microchip
Actually, no. The limitations are only in your little experienced mind. You also might wanna read up on why Windows became the default on all sold PCs (hint, hint, MS pays HW manufacturers) and also read on what happened during the UNIX wars that your beloved Bill exploited to become the dominant player

Oh boy, for someone who "used vi even before most on this forum were born", you surely don't know a lot of history

You aren't even close. MS became dominant because IBM adopted it, and let Bill Gates keep the copyright on the software (DOS). Try an alternative universe where you explanation might be more accepted.



Why do you think IBM adopted it? Because the software was so amazing? For Christ's sake, the early versions were bug-filled.

In the initial planning, IBM was pushing its own OS for the PC-compatible, only the BASIC-interpreter was to be made by MS. After time, when IBM saw their new OS didn't progress as planned, they went to MS and MS agreed to deliver the OS. Billy initially planned to write it himself but soon went searching at other firms until he discovered QDOS that MS bought for 50.000 dollars and developed it further.... if you want more history, there's this amazing search engine called Google that can help you

No, because Billy boy exploited yet another opportunity ;)

Ad-hominem attacks to "try another universe" don't work on me ;)
17) Message boards : Number crunching : What is so hard about Linux? (Message 35065)
Posted 3744 days ago by Profile microchip

The point is that I am not adverse to trying out something new (or else I would not be trying out Mint, would I?), but that the same type of limitations that existed many years ago on Linux and its precursor Unix are still with us. They have not made much progress on user friendliness. That opened up a huge door for MS, and Bill stepped right through it, to the eternal annoyance of Linux fans ever since.


Actually, no. The limitations are only in your little experienced mind. You also might wanna read up on why Windows became the default on all sold PCs (hint, hint, MS pays HW manufacturers) and also read on what happened during the UNIX wars that your beloved Bill exploited to become the dominant player

Oh boy, for someone who "used vi even before most on this forum were born", you surely don't know a lot of history

Anyways, I see where this is going. Windows Vs Linux, and not the OPs original intent to make the transition to Linux painless for new crunchers.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : What is so hard about Linux? (Message 35064)
Posted 3744 days ago by Profile microchip
This is the problem with most people. They try out something totally different and new to them, see it doesn't work like the thing they're used to, and get discouraged and go back to their familiar stuff.

I was using the vi editor under Unix before most people on this forum were born, and dearly hoped never to see it again. I think I will keep it that way.

But as with most such discussions, after asking why Bill Gates is a billionaire rather than the developers of Linux, the partisans ignore the results. I would not expect anything less.


LOL? This is your reply. I tried software X many years ago, I didn't like Software X for OS Y, so all software made for OS Y must be equally bad, including the OS Y itself. You might wanna look up logical fallacies. I'm sure yours classifies as one

If my mom can learn to use Linux in a week, knowing how my mom thinks and acts, I'm sure many more people will have no problem learning it too. It's just that they lack some things that prevents them, like little time, lazy, no interest, busy with other stuff, etc

In reply to your partitioning issue, the reason people don't know how to do it, is because Windows is pre-installed on PCs. 90% of people buy PCs with it already functioning so they don't need to bother or learn how to do it. If you need to install Windows yourself, Windows itself already makes a sane default that you just need to accept. Guess what? Most if not all Linux installers do the same. Regular people don't install Windows. They are happy if all is set up and they can use it. If something goes back and they can't fix it, the PC shop will do it for a small fee. This is what I call "dumbing down" people

Personally, I'm very thankful UNIX and Linux exist. Without them, I would never have learned how to program, set up servers, write websites, automate tasks and let the computer work for me without me looking, and even get into crunching (which is thanks to Linux).

Anyways, I'm not trying to convince you here. Not ever trying to change your mind. Just don't make assumptions based on very limited experiences and throw out statements like "I didn't like X so X must be bad for others too as I'll never recommend it".

In response to Bill Gates. Guess what? Gates didn't got rich from writing Windows himself. He stole and built on already existing, often raw, technology. This in combination with his genius-like, business-centric mind is what got him the money.

I won't try to respond to all of your diatribe, there is no answer to a vacuum anyway. But you managed to totally miss the point about vi, even though I had clearly stated that I was trying out Linux Mint now. The point is that I am not adverse to trying out something new (or else I would not be trying out Mint, would I?), but that the same type of limitations that existed many years ago on Linux and its precursor Unix are still with us. They have not made much progress on user friendliness. That opened up a huge door for MS, and Bill stepped right through it, to the eternal annoyance of Linux fans ever since.

I can use Linux too once it is set up; ask you Mom to get GPUGrid running under BOINC while remotely monitoring it. But the even more basic question is why bother? You have not attempted to answer that one, except for vindictives against Bill.


Which limitation exactly? The only thing you said is that you prefer not to see or use vi again. You didn't explain why, unless I missed it. Do you think I find all software for Linux/UNIX awesome? Or that I think UNIX/Linux doesn't have issues? Of course there's software that sucks or that a person doesn't like it. I also have my preference about which desktop environment I use, which CLI editor, which GUI editor, which language I use for scripting, etc, etc

If my mom was alive, I'm sure she can set it up. Don't think that just because my mom doesn't know computers much, she lacks the brainpower to set something up. Given enough time and a bit of research, she can do it :)
19) Message boards : Number crunching : What is so hard about Linux? (Message 35060)
Posted 3744 days ago by Profile microchip
This is the problem with most people. They try out something totally different and new to them, see it doesn't work like the thing they're used to, and get discouraged and go back to their familiar stuff.

I was using the vi editor under Unix before most people on this forum were born, and dearly hoped never to see it again. I think I will keep it that way.

But as with most such discussions, after asking why Bill Gates is a billionaire rather than the developers of Linux, the partisans ignore the results. I would not expect anything less.


LOL? This is your reply. I tried software X many years ago, I didn't like Software X for OS Y, so all software made for OS Y must be equally bad, including the OS Y itself. You might wanna look up logical fallacies. I'm sure yours classifies as one

If my mom can learn to use Linux in a week, knowing how my mom thinks and acts, I'm sure many more people will have no problem learning it too. It's just that they lack some things that prevents them, like little time, lazy, no interest, busy with other stuff, etc

In reply to your partitioning issue, the reason people don't know how to do it, is because Windows is pre-installed on PCs. 90% of people buy PCs with it already functioning so they don't need to bother or learn how to do it. If you need to install Windows yourself, Windows itself already makes a sane default that you just need to accept. Guess what? Most if not all Linux installers do the same. Regular people don't install Windows. They are happy if all is set up and they can use it. If something goes bad and they can't fix it, the PC shop will do it for a small fee. This is what I call "dumbing down" people

Personally, I'm very thankful UNIX and Linux exist. Without them, I would never have learned how to program, set up servers, write websites, automate tasks and let the computer work for me without me looking, and even get into crunching (which is thanks to Linux).

Anyways, I'm not trying to convince you here. Not even trying to change your mind. Just don't make assumptions based on very limited experiences and throw out statements like "I didn't like X so X must be bad for others too as I'll never recommend it".

In response to Bill Gates. Guess what? Gates didn't got rich from writing Windows himself. He stole and built on already existing, often raw, technology. This in combination with his genius-like, business-centric mind is what got him the money. it's called exploiting opportunities and sometimes being at the right time at the right place

The "developer of Linux" is not a billionair because that's not his goal. He does it for the love of technology, while Gates' underlying drive was to get rich in addition to setting a computer in every home.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : What is so hard about Linux? (Message 35053)
Posted 3744 days ago by Profile microchip


I think Linux is fine if you use it in your work, but hopeless for home use. Bill Gates need not worry about his MS stock, unless they do themselves in by Win8.


No doubt Windows is easy. It's what you know. Don't expect Linux to work/look/behave the same. After all, if it did, what's the point in having it?

It's not hopeless for home use. My mom used to use it after some getting used to. She watches mostly movies on it and does some mail reading. My mom is both a techno-phobic and tech-illiterate so anything to do with technology, she's scare of and not very interested in. Sadly, my mom is no longer (died of cancer a year ago). And here's the thing and "advantage" she has. She's never used computers much, so it doesn't matter to her whether it's Windows or Linux. I just put her in front and explained a few things on how to use it and where stuff goes to (like saving in /home/username, etc). After a few days, she stopped asking questions and got familiar. Never complained once about it. The "advantage" here is, from the perspective of a person who's never used a PC, it doesn't matter what you offer them. If they have the support, eventually they'll learn to use it with ease

I use it on all my home computers and is just fine for home use. I don't have problems with permissions, watching or encoding videos, listening to and managing my music, writing websites, writing documents, etc. Of course, I'm very familiar with it but I wasn't born with that knowledge. It takes both time and effort to get to know a new platform. I've been there and seen it all from the beginning. Everyone's been a noob at some point, right? :)

This is the problem with most people. They try out something totally different and new to them, see it doesn't work like the thing they're used to, and get discouraged and go back to their familiar stuff.

"Not having enthusiasm" translates to me as "I just gave up" because I'm not interested/lazy/takes too much time/etc.

Look at Win8. A lot of people I know are just confused by Metro and want their old familiar desktop back. Same thing applies to Linux. It's different so they want the old back instead of sticking with the different and learning it. But it takes effort and persistence


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