11) Message boards : News : New publication, new badges! (Message 24122)
Posted 4418 days ago by CTAPbIi
Thx :-) I hope this will help you, guys.
12) Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : GPUGRID and app_info (Message 21673)
Posted 4673 days ago by CTAPbIi
same story - almost everything gone from www.gpugrid.net folder...
13) Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : GPUGRID and app_info (Message 21670)
Posted 4675 days ago by CTAPbIi
Thanks Richard.

If anyone tests this, post your findings.

I'll test it later 2day
14) Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : GPUGRID and app_info (Message 21650)
Posted 4677 days ago by CTAPbIi
OK, I tried both version (with .exe and w/o .exe). They deleted everything (including .exe and all .dll) file from the BOINC folder, so smth wrong with app_info

Guys, don't get me wrong - I'm not complaining, I'm just reporting :-)
15) Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : GPUGRID and app_info (Message 21649)
Posted 4677 days ago by CTAPbIi
Nice discussion. guys :-) Rite now I'm waiting WU to complete and then I'll try app_info - both with and w/o .exe

You're right. Theoretically. :)

That's good news:-)

There is a prerequisite for this scenario: Your PC should not keep a spare pair of WU's in it's queue for too long, because if these two spare WUs are sitting in the queue for 12 hours, and then they are processed for another 12 hours they will just miss the 24 hours deadline. But if your queue is short, and a WU fails, your GPU will run only one WU (or in worst case: nothing) until a new one (or two) is downloaded.

Anyway rite now I've got 0 tasks in queue, so I'm really worry about that.

You forget about the reason behind low GPU utilization:
GPUGrid uses both the GPU and the CPU for processing a WU. The more the CPU usage of a WU is, the less its GPU usage is, because of the heavy data transmission on the PCIe bus. A GIANNI_KKFREE WU (82% GPU usage) uses 5.5 times more CPU than a TONI_AGGsoup WU (98% GPU usage). I learned from my experience, that I have to overclock a Core2Duo by 33% to get the performance (say 5-10% more GPU usage) of a Core i3 (its integrated PCIe controller is 33% faster than the X48 chipset's). I think the existence of a bus between the GPU and the CPU is the bottleneck, and this bus (ie. the PCIe) can be overloaded even by processing a single GIANNI_KKFREE-like WU. If this is right, there will be no significant rise in GPU usage by running two of them simultaneously (although there can be significant rise in GPU usage by running low and high GPU utilizing tasks at the same time, but maybe the lower GPU utilizing would be more slow than expected).
Don't get me wrong, I'm curious about this, but at the same time I'm very skeptical. Let's find out...

That's a good point. I was wondering what the hell is going on: CPU and GPU usage is way under 100%, so what's the bottleneck? Now it's clear. If the reason for the is PCIe, then u r rite - nothing I can gain from that trick.

From other hand - PCIe 2.0 x16 is hell fast bus and I'n not really sure it is the problem. But anyways - let's wait for 20 minutes and we'll get the answer.
16) Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : GPUGRID and app_info (Message 21640)
Posted 4678 days ago by CTAPbIi
Try this message from the Einstein forums. It has an app_info.xml used for running 4 Einstein tasks on a GTX480. It should give you the general idea. Maybe you can modify it to work with GPUgrid.

I'll try it, but... different apps got different arguments and not necessary they are the same all over the projects... I've got app_info for MilkyWay, PrimeGrid, Collatz, but i'm not sure it will work.
17) Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : GPUGRID and app_info (Message 21635)
Posted 4679 days ago by CTAPbIi
If you installed BOINC from repositories then it is NOT setup to run on your account. It will run on a special boinc user's account which is usually named boinc or something similar. In that case the boinc user will not see the SWAN_SYNC environment variable if you put it in your .bashrc. If you installed BOINC from the Berkeley installer (the .sh script) then putting it in your .bashrc is adequate.

normally I'm using repos, but BOINC is that rare exception. I'm downloading it from Berkeley and then runnin .sh script. So, it should work for me :-)
18) Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : GPUGRID and app_info (Message 21632)
Posted 4679 days ago by CTAPbIi
It only says so if you are running SWAN_SYNC, it doesn't mention anything if not (at least when looking at my results).

Stupid me... That rig is on win7 now and that's why SWAN_SYNC is no there :-)

Be careful when putting SWAN_SYNC in .bashrc, it will only work if boinc is running as that user.
To set it system-wide, look in /etc/environment or /etc/env.d/

that's not a problem coz there's one user account on that PC.

BUT: I think it worth the efforts to put that in FAQ. May be it's necessary to talk to some1.

All in all, where I can get app_info to try it?
19) Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : GPUGRID and app_info (Message 21630)
Posted 4680 days ago by CTAPbIi
OK, I'll use 275.xx drivers, NP at all :-)
20) Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : GPUGRID and app_info (Message 21628)
Posted 4680 days ago by CTAPbIi
It might be on by default in Linux, I don't know. The stderr on the website for each task shows the value for SWAN_SYNC. If it says there the value is 0 and you have no "export SWAN_SYNC=0" statement anywhere then assume it's 0 by default. I put "export SWAN_SYNC=0" in ~/.bashrc. Note the period, it's a hidden file. I'm the only user on the system so that's adequate for me. If you have multiple users you'll want to put the statement in a script that runs for every user.

Here’s the link on my completed task
But I cannot see any mentioning of SWAN_SYNC…

I’ll put "export SWAN_SYNC=0" in ~/.bashrc when I’ll be on linux. Thanks a lot, man :-)

Yah, nvclock doesn't work here either. The nvidia-settings utility doesn't give GPU load either. I've been able to read GPU usage only with the nvidia-smi utility and only with the 270.xx drivers. It doesn't report usage here with the 260.xx driver.

I never heard about this utility. I’ll try it for sure. Thanks again :-)
I installed the latest 275.xx.xx driver, so hopefully it will work with this version.

BTW, what’s version of drivers is the fastest? 260, 270 or 275?

There's only one way to be sure and that's to try it and see. I'm sure skgiven and others have been down that road before so keep in mind what they say when you're testing. And as Retvari said, make sure your tasks return within 24 hrs. if you want the credit bonus. I think a GTX 570 will have no problem returning 2 concurrently running tasks in 24 hrs. but ya never know.

That’s exactly what I want – to try by myself. No doubts that skgiven and other guys did that before, but look - we all helping science, so we all are some sort of scientist. So, let’s use scientific approach and try to repeat the results :-)

Me also think that I should be pretty much OK to meet 24hrs limit.

Also, I had troubles with the temperature on my GTX570 when I started running it on Linux. The fan would not speed up as the temp rose so I had to manually force it to run at high speed permanently. That required some research and playing around. I expect you and others will run into the same problem so I wrote up what I did and posted it here on the BOINC dev forum. I recommend getting a handle on that BEFORE you run your first CUDA task on Linux.

That’s nice manual. I tried coolbits 1, but never 4. May be that is why either fan speed either GPU OCing never worked for me. When I’m selecting "Thermal Settings" – nothing really happens. But I found my way – finding proper clocks/voltage in windows using MSI AfterBurner, modify BIOS using NiBiToR and then flash it. BTW, you cannot set fan speed less than 40% and greater than 85% on GTX5x0 cards. But starting from NiBiToR version 6.0 you can adjust fan speed in BIOS as well.

If you need modded BIOS for your card –just let me know, I’ll do it for u.


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