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CPU Usage down?
(Message 947)
Posted 5894 days ago by sslickerson
Thank You for writing this, this is exactly what I noticed this morning. Unfortunately, neither the project lead here at PS3GRID or the project lead at YoYo takes these claims seriously. I cannot tell which app (or even if the BOINC Manager) is broken but one of them is. This is one of the reasons why the current set of WU are taking so many hours, a portion of the CPU (SPE?) is not being utilized fully by one project or the other. Whatever mechanism that controls the release of SPE when not needed (such as switching from one project to the other) is BROKEN. Please GDF, I am begging you, attach to YoYO and let the WU run for awhile but make certain that PS3GRID interrupts the YoYo WU before it finishes and watch the behavior of the PS3GRID WU, I bet you a nickel you\'ll never see 130% again. |
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CPU Usage down?
(Message 943)
Posted 5894 days ago by sslickerson Well It has been awhile since I updated this thread. As I wrote earlier there still seems to be issues with CPU Usage/PS3Grid/YoYo@home. I posted a message to the YoYo forums awhile back about the issues I and others have been having and I received a very prompt answer from the \"head guy in charge\" there and the standard response went something like this--there is nothing wrong with this application, what were you thinking even bringing this up, please be quiet now. (I\'m being sarcastic, no really I am) After \"updating\" Boinc towards the end of last month (I mean completely uninstalling BOINC and starting from scratch yet again, and FWIW that was the fifth time) things were going good until yesterday. As I write this CPU usage has peaked yet again at 95-100% not the typical 130% GDF claims is the norm for this project. My current WU has run more than 35 hours (also, this is not the \"Broken\" version, the one running currently is the \"fixed\" version) with no end in sight. Again it appears that either the YoYo app or the PS3GRID app is not working correctly. My Ps3 is not being utilized as it should be and that is a problem. I am stating this problem yet again so GDF has the opportunity to respond with something constructive. If he were to actually look at these forums he would notice at least 5-10 different threads posted over the last few months regarding this very exact problem. I\'m getting sick of this. Now, being that it is yet again FRIDAY, I\'m certain the servers have been set to auto and someone is off having a Corona, therefore I won\'t get a reply anytime soon. But please sir, if you at least glance at this over the next month or two could you respond with maybe a check mark, or possibly a \"gone fishin\'\" poster or perhaps a message that goes something like this-- I\'m sorry, you\'ve reached GDF, I\'m off for the weekend and this project will probably blow up between now and then but I\'m literally gone, I\'m not here. I realize I should be here but really whats the point anyhow... Until next post, Timothy |
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Number crunching :
CPU Usage down?
(Message 888)
Posted 5904 days ago by sslickerson Interesting to read this thread. I just use the usb stick install and the PS3 churns out results with monotonous regularity. Surely this would indicate that the client is consistently using the same percentage of the CPU i.e. all of it. I do note that my last task took double the usual time (perhaps it\'s one of the new units), but I still got the credit for the hours crunched. If this problem was universal them surely we would be seeing a gradual drop in the RAC? Hi Ian, Are you attached to any other project on your PS3, especially YoYo? All I had were problems when I used the USB stick so I switched to the full YDL Build thinking this would solve my problems, it did not. I have crunched through at least 1 PS3Grid WU since I reinstalled BOINC but I have not done any YoYo WU. There might be something there... Tim |
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Number crunching :
CPU Usage down?
(Message 885)
Posted 5904 days ago by sslickerson the second PS3Grid unit is currently showing some progress, so maybe the other unit was just bad? Hi Dave, As you know I had this problem as well. I aborted the WU and reinstalled BOINC (after unsuccesfully trying to restart my PS3, detaching, reattaching, etc). I have not heard anything from the \"Official Person in CHARGE\" but it seems that the only way to get your WU to proces correctly is a complete, fresh install of BOINC. I have not tried a new BOINC version yet, I will need to try this probably during this weekend or so. Good luck and continue to post here. This goes for anyone else too. Please be certain to post all problems in the forums. At some point I will probably be asking for others to participate with me in a week long boycott of this project. It seems that those in charge are only interested in CPU cycles not the actual participants and the problems we are having. Perhaps when work done=zero, we can start to get some help around here. (I\'m not scolding the forum mods, Stefan has been doing a great job of course). Take care, Timothy |
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Number crunching :
CPU Usage down?
(Message 876)
Posted 5907 days ago by sslickerson [ Thanks Dave. And this is all from the console right? |
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Number crunching :
CPU Usage down?
(Message 873)
Posted 5907 days ago by sslickerson Timothy, Thanks for the response Stefan, I appreciate it (and just because you moderate these forums does not mean you cannot voice an opinion, especially an opinion we all pay attention to!). I\'m not too Linux savvy, how does one install the 5.10.17 BOINC Client? I tried last night but was stuck pretty much after downloading it (its not an .exe like windows :) How do I unpack it and where do I install it at? Will I need to uninstall the current BOINC client and if so, how do I do that? Thanks for the help! Timothy |
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CPU Usage down?
(Message 870)
Posted 5907 days ago by sslickerson Hey Timothy! Hi Stefan, I\'ve checked my venue for the PS3 and all seems ok and the app does not stay in memory when switched to a YoYo WU. I did grab one WU last night that just started about 10 minutes ago and has CPU around 120% (this is pretty normal) the kicker though, I reinstalled BOINC last night too. I am nearly certain that had I not done so the WU would not be running over 100% CPU right now. I can\'t say whether this is an app issue or a BOINC issue and I agree that BOINC itself does not do the crunching but I do believe BOINC allocates the resources in the first place. If I were a betting man I would simply state that there is an issue with the allocation of CPU cycles after another app (yoyo) has finished a WU. At this point it could be a PS3 Grid problem, a BOINC problem and possibly a YoYo problem as well. I don\'t know but also its not my job to figure it out. At times my PS3 works perfectly but the instant PS3Grid switches to YoYo all hell breaks loose. There is definitely a bug here and it must be fixed. Don\'t get me wrong, I appreciate your advice and take it very seriously but the man who should be looking into this is simply not (and it seems never has nor will he ever). I hope you can understand my frustration. Look at the boards recently, this is happening to many people not just me. This is not simply a local issue, this is system wide, therefore a very serious problem. Timothy |
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Number crunching :
CPU Usage down?
(Message 862)
Posted 5907 days ago by sslickerson Sorry to hear that your problem sounds terminal Timothy. But, it seems like it can be solved in the short term by re-installing the client. But with no new WU\'s, that is not much of a solution. Unfortunately, not every project admin checks their server before going home for the weekend.... Thanks for the words of encouragement :) I did process one YoYo@home WU that validated just minutes ago. I can\'t decide if it is this BOINC build or the PS3Grid app that is causing such problems but either way the frustration is mounting. Thanks for the reply, hopefully someone will be listening in soon. Timothy |
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CPU Usage down?
(Message 861)
Posted 5907 days ago by sslickerson I\'m currently in this state too, I have one WU that is at 1 day 16:12:41 work done and now it won\'t process any further. I tried suspending it, it kicked into the second WU, but that one won\'t process at all either. Not sure what I should do at this point, maybe a reinstall of Boinc? But then I\'ll lose the over 1.5 days of work that\'s been done already... Anyone? In case it matters, I\'m running with an installed version of YDL, not off a USB drive. Unfortunately, I do believe the only answer in this case is to completely reinstall BOINC and then reattach. I have done this 3 times in the past (maybe more?) and will most likely do it again soon. I have had this exact problem with both the USB drive and YDL so I think we are a bit out of luck. We\'re out of work right now anyhow so don\'t do anything until work is flowing again. Instead might I suggest attaching to YoYo@home to see if there WU will work on this build. Best of luck and thank you for posting. Timothy |
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CPU Usage down?
(Message 858)
Posted 5907 days ago by sslickerson Another update: At the 48 hour mark I rebooted my PS3. Upon restart a couple of things occurred, first; PS3Grid \"lost\" 30 hours of work, meaning it fell back to its last checkpoint (obviously this was a bad WU and probably a bad app and even probably a bad BOINC build) Second, even when the PS3Grid WU was running it was taking no CPU resources, meaning it is now dead. I suspended this WU and the second PS3Grid WU started. This too said it was running but again, it was taking zero CPU resources. I then tried a YoYo WU, this one has begun and is taking 100% CPU currently and I should know in a couple of hours if it completes. FWIW, in the past, once a PS3Grid WU failed for any reason the entire BOINC Manager and all of the applications become corrupt and the only way to fix this is to completely reinstall BOINC and attach to each application again. Major Problem here...I can\'t wait for the day GDF (aka. the head guy) actually fixes his app or at the very least offers some sign of encouragement. I\'m truly saddened by the serious lack of leadership around here...Perhaps its time to move on. Timothy |
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