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Message 53905 - Posted: 13 Mar 2020 | 13:20:47 UTC
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Hey community,

If you would like to contribute to an immediate need (especially while GPU work is dwindling at GPUGrid)...

I recommend installing Folding@home and setting it to work on "Any disease", which will allow your resources to be used for new COVID-19 Coronavirus tasks. They have spun up some GPU projects a few days ago, and even some CPU projects more recently. Links below.

The software is a bit clunky, but it is also relatively easy to set up. For the short term, I am allocating all my beefy GPUs resources toward working on Coronavirus, and about half of my CPU resources.

Note: I have a lot of passion for GPUGrid, and will definitely come back to it. I'm just recommending a temporary (few weeks/months?) switch, to help an immediate need.

https://foldingathome.org/

https://foldingathome.org/2020/03/10/covid19-update/

https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=32287

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2953361518064379&id=136059519794607

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Message 53922 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020 | 8:58:34 UTC
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Note: I have a lot of passion for GPUGrid, and will definitely come back to it. I'm just recommending a temporary (few weeks/months?) switch, to help an immediate need.


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Message 53923 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020 | 11:58:14 UTC - in response to Message 53922.
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I am planning SARS-CoV-2 work.


(especially while GPU work is dwindling at GPUGrid


GPU work is NOT dwindling here.

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Message 53924 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020 | 14:23:58 UTC
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Excellent !!
Also, sorry for being wrong about GPUGrid work supply.

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Message 53925 - Posted: 15 Mar 2020 | 14:56:45 UTC - in response to Message 53923.

I am planning SARS-CoV-2 work.

Toni, Outstanding!!!
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Message 53929 - Posted: 16 Mar 2020 | 14:18:03 UTC - in response to Message 53923.

Excellent! Thanks for the update. Hope to get some of those SARS-CoV-2 work units soon!

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Message 53932 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020 | 13:58:26 UTC

Rosetta@home also has COVID-19 WUs (CPU only).

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13533
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Message 53933 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020 | 15:00:43 UTC

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I have this WU- https://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=17678083 stuck since the outage, awaiting validation. Can anything set it free?
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Message 53937 - Posted: 17 Mar 2020 | 20:40:05 UTC - in response to Message 53932.
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Rosetta@home also has COVID-19 WUs (CPU only).

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13533

Rosetta code is flawed in how it handles your L3 Cache. You need to budget 5 MB L3 Cache per Rosetta and MIP (WCG MIP uses Rosetta code).
<app_config>
<app>
<name>rosetta</name>
<!-- needs 5 MB L3 cache per WU -->
<!-- needs 1.5 GB RAM per WU -->
<!-- Xeon E5-2686 v4, 18c36t, 32 GB, 45 MB L3 Cache -->
<max_concurrent>9</max_concurrent>
</app>
<app>
<name>minirosetta</name>
<!-- needs 5 MB L3 cache per WU -->
<max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
</app>
<project_max_concurrent>9</project_max_concurrent>
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Message 53940 - Posted: 18 Mar 2020 | 7:59:49 UTC - in response to Message 53923.

I am planning SARS-CoV-2 work.

You better upgrade the server(s) before you do! FAH servers are overwhelmed.
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Message 53949 - Posted: 19 Mar 2020 | 1:47:36 UTC - in response to Message 53923.

Toni, will these work units be GPU, CPU, both? I know to some that may be a silly question but GPUGrid has dabbled with GPU, CPU, ARM (Android), and virtualbox in the past. Just wanted to know what to look forward to.
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Message 53955 - Posted: 20 Mar 2020 | 14:54:12 UTC - in response to Message 53932.

Rosetta@home also has COVID-19 WUs (CPU only).

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13533

Thank you, Chilean!

I've already joint to Rosetta@home, as it is a CPU only project and, therefore, complementary to GPUGrid

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Message 53956 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020 | 2:45:08 UTC - in response to Message 53940.

You better upgrade the server(s) before you do!


So goes the conundrum of distributed computing...

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Message 53957 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020 | 6:08:38 UTC - in response to Message 53955.

I've already joint to Rosetta@home, as it is a CPU only project and, therefore, complementary to GPUGrid

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Message 53958 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020 | 10:19:49 UTC - in response to Message 53956.

You better upgrade the server(s) before you do!

So goes the conundrum of distributed computing...
The real conundrum is the preparedness of the public health services and/or governments which is put to the test by this world wide pandemic.

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Message 53959 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020 | 14:11:23 UTC - in response to Message 53958.

You better upgrade the server(s) before you do!

So goes the conundrum of distributed computing...
The real conundrum is the preparedness of the public health services and/or governments which is put to the test by this world wide pandemic.
Also:
1. The unsanitary food processing practices of China are antediluvian.
2. ImPOTUS has ravaged science in America and our response is many weeks behind where it should be. The US government fell on their face.

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Message 53960 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020 | 15:48:01 UTC
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Okay okay ....
:) Back to Crunching for Coronavirus! :)

Does anybody know of any cool methods to somehow have my GPUs crunch Folding@home if they have a work unit available to them, but if they don't (Since there are server outages there sometimes) automatically switch over to BOINC?

I have .bat files that can turn BOINC GPU Computing from GPU Suspended to Use GPU based on preferences ... but I guess I need to do more research into finding a way to detect Folding@Home slot fulfillment for my GPU devices.

I guess I'll be starting here:
https://github.com/FoldingAtHome/fah-control/wiki/3rd-party-FAHClient-API

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Message 53963 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020 | 19:27:19 UTC - in response to Message 53960.

As folding@home is in the media now with many new users and servers are already overloaded I would recommend to stay at Rosetta for CPU and GPUgrid for GPU.

I already tell that other new users of folding@home which cannot get enough work units yet.

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Message 53966 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020 | 20:01:59 UTC - in response to Message 53960.

Okay okay ....
:) Back to Crunching for Coronavirus! :)

Does anybody know of any cool methods to somehow have my GPUs crunch Folding@home if they have a work unit available to them, but if they don't (Since there are server outages there sometimes) automatically switch over to BOINC?

I have .bat files that can turn BOINC GPU Computing from GPU Suspended to Use GPU based on preferences ... but I guess I need to do more research into finding a way to detect Folding@Home slot fulfillment for my GPU devices.

I guess I'll be starting here:
https://github.com/FoldingAtHome/fah-control/wiki/3rd-party-FAHClient-API

If you were following the greatest BOINC team site in the world, which everyone should be ;) you'd know that all you need to do is set exclusions in cc_config for FahCore_21.exe and 22. This works for GPU, which is all that I'm doing.

<exclusive_app>FahCore_21.exe</exclusive_app>
<exclusive_app>FahCore_22.exe</exclusive_app>

Set your preferred project to a resource share of zero and you're good to go. I was using PrimeGrid for this at first because I wasn't expecting the FAH client to be out of work for hours at a time. The current GPUGrid work is fine for this, in fact I've run more GPUGrid work than FAH lately.
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Message 53967 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020 | 22:16:39 UTC

Regarding BOINC projects: If any doubt left to me about Rosetta@home implication in COVID-19 research... Now it's solved. com'on!


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Message 53968 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020 | 22:59:21 UTC - in response to Message 53966.

If you were following the greatest BOINC team site in the world, which everyone should be ;) you'd know that all you need to do is set exclusions in cc_config for FahCore_21.exe and 22. This works for GPU, which is all that I'm doing.

<exclusive_app>FahCore_21.exe</exclusive_app>
<exclusive_app>FahCore_22.exe</exclusive_app>

Set your preferred project to a resource share of zero and you're good to go.

Thanks, but it also suspends all BOINC CPU work. That is too much for me, but it is a clever idea.
Also, for Linux it is just FahCore_21 and FahCore_22, without the ".exe".

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Message 53969 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020 | 23:20:08 UTC

Interesting idea about the Exclusive App!

I'm pretty sure I'd want to use the GPU version though.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

<exclusive_gpu_app>important.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>


I'll think about setting this up, but don't know if it'd work the way I want it to, on my PCs that have 3 GPUs.

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Message 53971 - Posted: 21 Mar 2020 | 23:55:09 UTC - in response to Message 53969.

Interesting idea about the Exclusive App!

I'm pretty sure I'd want to use the GPU version though.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration
<exclusive_gpu_app>important.exe</exclusive_gpu_app>


I'll think about setting this up, but don't know if it'd work the way I want it to, on my PCs that have 3 GPUs.

Thanks for pointing this parameter out, I never noticed it. I've been running separate clients for CPU and GPU for years, and rarely run projects that have GPU work on the CPU, so what I posted works perfectly for me. Actually I run separate clients for every GPU as well so I have better control over what's running. I tend to forget most folks' setups aren't like mine. This <exclusive_gpu_app> is a nice option for mixed work.
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Message 53972 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020 | 0:29:57 UTC - in response to Message 53960.

One possible solution:

This is a low level heavily scripted option but might make a useful project if you have time or the inclination.

Step 1
Use nvidia-smi to check for low GPU temperature....eg less than 12W. This will indicate no activity in Folding@home.(nvidia-smi can output selected figures such as power, I have used this in the past)

Step 2
On low temp use boinccmd to set gpugrid as active and retrieve a wu.

Step 3
pause 300 seconds, then use boinccmd to set gpugrid status: fetch no more tasks

Step 4
use either boinccmd or nvidia-smi to check for activity in gpugrid. When gpugrid task complete, fetch folding@home task. Havent scripted folding@home so cant comment on commandline control of fetching tasks there.(this could render this script pointless)

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repeat

I can submit a script when free in a day or so if needed.

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Message 53973 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020 | 0:50:00 UTC

It looked to me like FAH is accessed via telnet, which might be a pain. Haven't fully researched it all. Also, I'm attached to all 55 projects, with GPU work allowed for about 5 some of which also have CPU work I want, so I'm not interested in suspending projects :)

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Message 53975 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020 | 15:26:06 UTC - in response to Message 53923.

I am planning SARS-CoV-2 work.

When will this work be available?

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Message 53977 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020 | 17:24:24 UTC

I just got a long run marked PABLO. Is this COVID-19 research?

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Message 53981 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020 | 18:52:32 UTC - in response to Message 53977.

I just got a long run marked PABLO. Is this COVID-19 research?

Never mind- it errored out after 4 seconds.

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Message 53983 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020 | 19:37:20 UTC - in response to Message 53981.

I just got a long run marked PABLO. Is this COVID-19 research?

Never mind- it errored out after 4 seconds.

Probably a virus...

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Message 53989 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020 | 21:49:44 UTC - in response to Message 53983.
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I just got a long run marked PABLO. Is this COVID-19 research?

Never mind- it errored out after 4 seconds.

Probably a virus...


No doubt the OC@2GHz virus. 🐞💻🐞

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Message 53990 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020 | 22:10:09 UTC - in response to Message 53958.

The real conundrum is the preparedness of the public health services and/or governments which is put to the test by this world wide pandemic.

Here, in Italy, the situation is dramatic

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Message 53991 - Posted: 22 Mar 2020 | 22:51:11 UTC - in response to Message 53990.

Here, in Italy, the situation is dramatic

You have probably heard of remdesivir.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/21/819099156/might-the-experimental-drug-remdesivir-work-against-covid-19

It was used on an elderly patient in Italy with apparent success, though the trials are ongoing.

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Message 53996 - Posted: 23 Mar 2020 | 5:46:14 UTC - in response to Message 53981.

I just got a long run marked PABLO. Is this COVID-19 research?

Never mind- it errored out after 4 seconds.


Interesting, 64 tasks released without Wrapper (using ACEMD2 v9.23 Windows). Did someone forget to use ACEMD3?

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Message 54035 - Posted: 24 Mar 2020 | 22:48:04 UTC - in response to Message 53996.

Interesting, 64 tasks released without Wrapper (using ACEMD2 v9.23 Windows). Did someone forget to use ACEMD3?

Please tell this old newbie how you knew that, I'd be much obliged.

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Interesting, 64 tasks released without Wrapper (using ACEMD2 v9.23 Windows). Did someone forget to use ACEMD3?

Please tell this old newbie how you knew that, I'd be much obliged.


Last year in April, GPUgrid embarked on an upgrade of their WUs so they would be compatible with CUDA 10 and Turing based GPUs. The new design of the WUs used "Wrappers" to make the WUs more portable and easier to create for the Project team.
The last of the old WUs issued by GPUgrid were ACEMD2 with a version number of v9.xx
The release of the new WUs was in October last year. The new WUs have been referred to as ACEMD3 with a version number of 2.xx

For your reference, the list of GPUgrid apps are found here:
http://www.gpugrid.net/apps.php

If you check the Server Status page you can see "Short ..." and "Long ..." WUs. These are the legacy ACEMD2 WUs that wont run on Turing based GPUs and havent been issued since October last year (Windows only).

We are currently running WUs listed as "New Version of ACEMD".

At the bottom of the Server Status page you can see a detailed list of the ACEMD2 WUs which lists the current batch of "old" WUs.

All have failed.

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Message 54064 - Posted: 25 Mar 2020 | 16:19:48 UTC - in response to Message 54039.

Thanks very much Rod4X4! I seem to have a lot of catching up to do on history here. I really appreciate the mentoring.

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Message 54073 - Posted: 25 Mar 2020 | 23:23:26 UTC - in response to Message 54064.

Thanks very much Rod4X4! I seem to have a lot of catching up to do on history here. I really appreciate the mentoring.


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