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Message 53116 - Posted: 26 Nov 2019 | 7:53:34 UTC

My current top card is a GTX 1050TI, but that seems to be falling behind with these new tasks that are being tested.

What is the the next mid level card that would be under 250 Euro/Dollar.
I would prefer to stay under 200 if possible.

I have been using GE Force forever, so it would seem strange to use a MSI card.
RTX appears to be out of budget for now.
So I guess that leaves me something in GTX world.

What do you guys suggest?

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Message 53127 - Posted: 26 Nov 2019 | 18:01:28 UTC

I do have an GTX1660ti and a GTX1650. The GTX1660ti is about twice as fast as the GTX1650. And although FP32: 2,661 GFLOPS of my GTX1650 is lower than the GTX970 FP32: 3,498 GFLOPS it uses about the same time to complete a WU @ half the power consumption.

Therefore: I woudn´t buy a last generation card, and I think the GTX1650 SUPER might be a quite interesting card for BOINC projects in the price range you are giving.

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Message 53130 - Posted: 26 Nov 2019 | 21:59:17 UTC - in response to Message 53127.

RTX without winning the lottery did not offer me much more than my current 1050. I'll have a look at the 1650 series.
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Message 53143 - Posted: 27 Nov 2019 | 4:45:34 UTC

The GTX 1660 is just a "smidge" over $200.~$219 Much better than the 1650. See if you can stretch your budget. Or haunt the "Black Friday" deals.

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Message 53144 - Posted: 27 Nov 2019 | 6:50:28 UTC

Also power consumtion should be considered.
GTX 1650 will process ACEMD3 with about +42% performance increase than GTX 1050Ti at the same rated TDP of 75W.
GTX 1660 will offer a better performance, but its rated TDP is 120W. This will increase your power bill accordingly...
At following link a 10xx series full specifications comparative can be found.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/compare/
Navigating Products, you'll find specifications for RTX and 16xx also.

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Message 53158 - Posted: 27 Nov 2019 | 15:46:03 UTC - in response to Message 53143.

I still think the GTX1650 SUPER or the GTX1660ti will be the better choices:
GTX 1650 1485 / 2000 4096 MB GDDR5 128b 896 : 56 : 32- 75W
GTX 1650 SUPER 1530 / 1500 4096 MB GDDR6 128b 1280 : 80 : 32 100W
GTX 1660 (SUPER) 1530 / 1750 6144 MB GDDR6 192b 1408 : 88 : 48 120W
GTX 1660 Ti 1500 / 1500 6144 MB GDDR6 192b TU116-400 1536 : 96 : 48 120W
The GTX1650 SUPER has a lot more cuda cores as the GTX1650 non super, as the GTX1660 has the same power bracket as the GTX1660TI with less CUDA Cores. So I expect that the GTX SUPER will perform quite in the middle of my GTX1650 and 1660ti, with a lower price as GTX1660ti.

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Message 53166 - Posted: 27 Nov 2019 | 20:18:21 UTC
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Another option is the p102-100 mining card. It is equivalent to the GTX-1080Ti but lacks video out. It does have pins at the top edge for SLI but I do not have a real GTX-1080Ti to test SLI on. I got a used one on ebay for USD $259 free ship. Works fine with BOINC. Have a second one on order.


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5 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1660 Ti (driver version 430.40, CUDA version 10.1, compute capability 7.5, 4096MB, 3972MB available, 5530 GFLOPS peak)
6 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1: P102-100 (driver version 430.40, CUDA version 10.1, compute capability 6.1, 4096MB, 3964MB available, 10771 GFLOPS peak)
7 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 1070 (driver version 430.40, CUDA version 10.1, compute capability 6.1, 4096MB, 3972MB available, 6463 GFLOPS peak)
8 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1660 Ti (driver version 430.40, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 5942MB, 3972MB available, 5530 GFLOPS peak)
9 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: P102-100 (driver version 430.40, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 5060MB, 3964MB available, 10771 GFLOPS peak)
10 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 1070 (driver version 430.40, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 8120MB, 3972MB available, 6463 GFLOPS peak)


I read where some of these "mining only" cards can have a driver mod (the .inf file) to allow it to use the video circuitry on the mother board assuming the motherboard has the connectors and the HD graphics on the intel cpu are disabled. Have not tried that.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1021372-nvidia-said-we-couldnt-game-on-this/page/4/

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https://github.com/gerdesi/NVIDIA_P106

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Message 53343 - Posted: 15 Dec 2019 | 7:55:14 UTC - in response to Message 53166.
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Another option is the p102-100 mining card. It is equivalent to the GTX-1080Ti but lacks video out. It does have pins at the top edge for SLI but I do not have a real GTX-1080Ti to test SLI on. I got a used one on ebay for USD $259 free ship. Works fine with BOINC. Have a second one on order.


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5 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1660 Ti (driver version 430.40, CUDA version 10.1, compute capability 7.5, 4096MB, 3972MB available, 5530 GFLOPS peak)
6 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1: P102-100 (driver version 430.40, CUDA version 10.1, compute capability 6.1, 4096MB, 3964MB available, 10771 GFLOPS peak)
7 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 1070 (driver version 430.40, CUDA version 10.1, compute capability 6.1, 4096MB, 3972MB available, 6463 GFLOPS peak)
8 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1660 Ti (driver version 430.40, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 5942MB, 3972MB available, 5530 GFLOPS peak)
9 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: P102-100 (driver version 430.40, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 5060MB, 3964MB available, 10771 GFLOPS peak)
10 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 1070 (driver version 430.40, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 8120MB, 3972MB available, 6463 GFLOPS peak)


I read where some of these "mining only" cards can have a driver mod (the .inf file) to allow it to use the video circuitry on the mother board assuming the motherboard has the connectors and the HD graphics on the intel cpu are disabled. Have not tried that.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1021372-nvidia-said-we-couldnt-game-on-this/page/4/

-and-

https://github.com/gerdesi/NVIDIA_P106


I cant find the P102 here in Europe as a new card.
But I can get from Amazon Germany the following:

MSI Radeon RX 580 Armor
ASUS Radeon AREZ-RX560
Zotac Nvidia GTX1650
ASUS AMD Radeon RX 570 Expedition
MSI GeForce GTX 1080TI Sea Hawk

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Message 53344 - Posted: 15 Dec 2019 | 7:56:37 UTC - in response to Message 53158.

I still think the GTX1650 SUPER or the GTX1660ti will be the better choices:
GTX 1650 1485 / 2000 4096 MB GDDR5 128b 896 : 56 : 32- 75W
GTX 1650 SUPER 1530 / 1500 4096 MB GDDR6 128b 1280 : 80 : 32 100W
GTX 1660 (SUPER) 1530 / 1750 6144 MB GDDR6 192b 1408 : 88 : 48 120W
GTX 1660 Ti 1500 / 1500 6144 MB GDDR6 192b TU116-400 1536 : 96 : 48 120W
The GTX1650 SUPER has a lot more cuda cores as the GTX1650 non super, as the GTX1660 has the same power bracket as the GTX1660TI with less CUDA Cores. So I expect that the GTX SUPER will perform quite in the middle of my GTX1650 and 1660ti, with a lower price as GTX1660ti.


I have been looking at the 16xx series since the 10xx series is no longer being sold officially. Now to compare with the mining card.

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Message 53346 - Posted: 15 Dec 2019 | 9:01:34 UTC - in response to Message 53343.

Another option is the p102-100 mining card. It is equivalent to the GTX-1080Ti but lacks video out. It does have pins at the top edge for SLI but I do not have a real GTX-1080Ti to test SLI on. I got a used one on ebay for USD $259 free ship. Works fine with BOINC. Have a second one on order.


tb85-nvidia

5 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1660 Ti (driver version 430.40, CUDA version 10.1, compute capability 7.5, 4096MB, 3972MB available, 5530 GFLOPS peak)
6 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1: P102-100 (driver version 430.40, CUDA version 10.1, compute capability 6.1, 4096MB, 3964MB available, 10771 GFLOPS peak)
7 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 1070 (driver version 430.40, CUDA version 10.1, compute capability 6.1, 4096MB, 3972MB available, 6463 GFLOPS peak)
8 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 1660 Ti (driver version 430.40, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 5942MB, 3972MB available, 5530 GFLOPS peak)
9 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: P102-100 (driver version 430.40, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 5060MB, 3964MB available, 10771 GFLOPS peak)
10 11/27/2019 1:57:59 PM OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 2: GeForce GTX 1070 (driver version 430.40, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 8120MB, 3972MB available, 6463 GFLOPS peak)


I read where some of these "mining only" cards can have a driver mod (the .inf file) to allow it to use the video circuitry on the mother board assuming the motherboard has the connectors and the HD graphics on the intel cpu are disabled. Have not tried that.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1021372-nvidia-said-we-couldnt-game-on-this/page/4/

-and-

https://github.com/gerdesi/NVIDIA_P106


I cant find the P102 here in Europe as a new card.
But I can get from Amazon Germany the following:

MSI Radeon RX 580 Armor
ASUS Radeon AREZ-RX560
Zotac Nvidia GTX1650
ASUS AMD Radeon RX 570 Expedition
MSI GeForce GTX 1080TI Sea Hawk



I can see a 590, but it is over 200 Euro which would take some time to round up.
The 580 and lower are more affordable.
Whats the difference between an Armor labeled card and a regular card?
I seem to remember the Armor label meaning it could take more abuse?

Sapphire Radeon Nitro + RX 580
Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX 580
Asus Radeon Dual RX 580
What is the difference between these?

Then in 570 series it is just this: ASUS AMD Radeon RX 570 Expedition

590 is a bit out of what I would like to spend, but if I can get 5-6 years out of it before it becomes a dino then I might consider it. The 570 and 580's are more in my price range.

So...what do you think

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Message 53347 - Posted: 15 Dec 2019 | 12:07:17 UTC - in response to Message 53346.
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I can see a 590, but it is over 200 Euro which would take some time to round up.
The 580 and lower are more affordable.
Whats the difference between an Armor labeled card and a regular card?
I seem to remember the Armor label meaning it could take more abuse?

Sapphire Radeon Nitro + RX 580
Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX 580
Asus Radeon Dual RX 580
What is the difference between these?

Then in 570 series it is just this: ASUS AMD Radeon RX 570 Expedition

590 is a bit out of what I would like to spend, but if I can get 5-6 years out of it before it becomes a dino then I might consider it. The 570 and 580's are more in my price range.

So...what do you think

GPUGRID.net only supports Nvidia GPUs.
gtx 1660 range of cards are good value for performance.

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Message 53349 - Posted: 15 Dec 2019 | 13:20:05 UTC - in response to Message 53347.

I can see a 590, but it is over 200 Euro which would take some time to round up.
The 580 and lower are more affordable.
Whats the difference between an Armor labeled card and a regular card?
I seem to remember the Armor label meaning it could take more abuse?

Sapphire Radeon Nitro + RX 580
Sapphire Radeon Pulse RX 580
Asus Radeon Dual RX 580
What is the difference between these?

Then in 570 series it is just this: ASUS AMD Radeon RX 570 Expedition

590 is a bit out of what I would like to spend, but if I can get 5-6 years out of it before it becomes a dino then I might consider it. The 570 and 580's are more in my price range.

So...what do you think

GPUGRID.net only supports Nvidia GPUs.
gtx 1660 range of cards are good value for performance.


Thanks..I was wondering about the difference...so let me dig some more.

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Message 53350 - Posted: 15 Dec 2019 | 13:39:16 UTC

So a couple of more questions for you guys

Any real super significant difference in power between the 1660 and the 1650 that would have me spend the extra money? Is there something that can be quantified long term (5 years or more) that would make the 1660 better?

Then all the different manufactures and flavors of these cards has me scratching my head.

MSI,ASUS,GIGABYTE
Armor,Founder,OC Edition,Storm X boost, etc.

What works best for just video display (no gaming) and crunching this project and other GPU projects on BOINC that does not cost me a small fortune (over 200-250 Euro/Dollars). I would prefer to keep under 200 if possible.

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