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Message 52451 - Posted: 10 Aug 2019 | 18:17:30 UTC

We are aware of the problem and working on it. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Message 52453 - Posted: 11 Aug 2019 | 0:08:11 UTC

What?

How is that?

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Message 52454 - Posted: 11 Aug 2019 | 8:50:57 UTC

Hi,
and for Linux (Debian 10) and GPU you are again Job ?
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Message 52455 - Posted: 11 Aug 2019 | 11:05:04 UTC

No Problem, the other Projekt are now very happy
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Message 52456 - Posted: 11 Aug 2019 | 12:42:01 UTC

We are aware of the problem and working on it. Sorry for the inconvenience.


You're welcome.
Thank you very much for the information, and for your efforts.
May the Schwartz be with you (Spaceballs film quote ;-)

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Message 52457 - Posted: 11 Aug 2019 | 16:31:35 UTC

Hello Toi

Any idea when it will be solved ?
I have a few WU to run, so long problem is not solved, they crash, but also unable to get new one due to host limitation.
And the WU I have are close deadline ...

With hope you will let us know when we can start again

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Message 52459 - Posted: 11 Aug 2019 | 17:18:33 UTC

Go to ebay to get a 'scrap' key, they are very affordable...

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Message 52460 - Posted: 11 Aug 2019 | 17:48:45 UTC - in response to Message 52459.

Go to ebay to get a 'scrap' key, they are very affordable...



Ah ah ah !!! Good Idea, but such 'scrap' keys are not on ebay.

It is not our key who have problem. It is server licence of project it self !

An official, worldwide, serious research PRJ who already weeks know it will happens, do as good as nothing !

And now, because th amount of WU by host, all is blocked !
The PRJ blocked it self !!!
Normally, I get 4 WU at once. And are returned within 2 days.
Now , host (event log) says computer has finish a dayly quota of 1 task.
Of course. Each task in error decrease amount of downable task !
Next step will be "....quota of zero" ???

Or perhaps PRJ want to remove Windows hosts ???

Only Admin can anser, but nothing !!!
Only " we know and we appologize".
Nice.

When a solution ???
Or perhaps they not need us anymore ?
Answer is only known by admin...





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Message 52464 - Posted: 11 Aug 2019 | 23:43:03 UTC
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So is this what is causing the errors on the tasks in windows?
IE from http://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?userid
"
21301683 16716502 456643 11 Aug 2019 | 21:10:38 UTC 11 Aug 2019 | 21:14:44 UTC Error while computing 3.00 0.00 --- Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v9.22 (cuda80)
21301662 16716487 456643 11 Aug 2019 | 21:14:44 UTC 11 Aug 2019 | 21:22:44 UTC Error while computing 4.13 0.00 --- Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v9.22 (cuda80)
21295951 16715896 456643 10 Aug 2019 | 21:27:31 UTC 10 Aug 2019 | 21:32:33 UTC Error while computing 1.01 0.00 --- Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v9.22 (cuda80)
21295938 16715702 456643 10 Aug 2019 | 21:32:33 UTC 10 Aug 2019 | 21:35:49 UTC Error while computing 1.05 0.00 --- Long runs (8-12 hours on fastest card) v9.22 (cuda80)"

Or is this something else?
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Message 52465 - Posted: 11 Aug 2019 | 23:53:23 UTC - in response to Message 52457.

Hello Toi

Any idea when it will be solved ?
I have a few WU to run, so long problem is not solved, they crash, but also unable to get new one due to host limitation.
And the WU I have are close deadline ...

With hope you will let us know when we can start again

Best regards

Another thread indicates that WUs still run on Windows XP hosts, but not on those with Linux or more recent versions of Windows. The license for the XP version is expected to last a little while longer before it also expires.

Someone on the project team wrote that a fix is expected to come only when the ACEMD 3 application is ready, which will not need these licenses. If so that version will be hard to test against the current version that need licenses.

Users might make sure that they are signed up to run ACEMD 3 when it is available, and therefore help beta test this new application.

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Message 52468 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 3:12:01 UTC - in response to Message 52465.

... The license for the XP version is expected to last a little while longer before it also expires.

Would be great if someone from the team could tell us when the XP license will expire.
Not that we could do much against it, but at least we would know.

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Message 52469 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 9:04:00 UTC

The licenses have obviously expired for the applications sent to users (except for the XP version), but have they also expired for the server programs used to generate those applications?

What happens if tho same procedures used to generate the user applications are tried again, with no changes other than the version numbers of the user applications?

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Message 52471 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 10:43:47 UTC - in response to Message 52469.

The licenses have obviously expired for the applications sent to users (except for the XP version), but have they also expired for the server programs used to generate those applications?

What happens if tho same procedures used to generate the user applications are tried again, with no changes other than the version numbers of the user applications?


Devs had that opportunity months ago with the Linux version...

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Message 52476 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 12:52:38 UTC - in response to Message 52471.

The licenses have obviously expired for the applications sent to users (except for the XP version), but have they also expired for the server programs used to generate those applications?

What happens if tho same procedures used to generate the user applications are tried again, with no changes other than the version numbers of the user applications?


Devs had that opportunity months ago with the Linux version...

They didn't tell us the results, though.

Also, they could create a few test workunits with the current application and with more output enabled as the application starts to help pin down which item the application is built from contains the expired license, if they don't already know.

Also, I haven't seen it mentioned whether a computer running Windows Vista would try to run the XP version or the newer Windows version. If no one knows, I have a computer that is probably suitable for testing this, but I cannot run that computer at the same time as the computer I'd otherwise be using.

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Message 52478 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 14:24:31 UTC - in response to Message 52476.

The licenses have obviously expired for the applications sent to users (except for the XP version), but have they also expired for the server programs used to generate those applications?

What happens if tho same procedures used to generate the user applications are tried again, with no changes other than the version numbers of the user applications?


Devs had that opportunity months ago with the Linux version...

They didn't tell us the results, though.

Also, they could create a few test workunits with the current application and with more output enabled as the application starts to help pin down which item the application is built from contains the expired license, if they don't already know.

Also, I haven't seen it mentioned whether a computer running Windows Vista would try to run the XP version or the newer Windows version. If no one knows, I have a computer that is probably suitable for testing this, but I cannot run that computer at the same time as the computer I'd otherwise be using.


This isn't the 1st time this license has expired. I think last year it did as well. They know what which license expired.

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Message 52479 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 17:14:28 UTC - in response to Message 52478.



This isn't the 1st time this license has expired. I think last year it did as well. They know what which license expired.


Hello mmonnin,
I had also the same impression.
But because I manage all PRJ of all users of my team, I was not more sure.

And still not any reaction of admin.
The worst, is that they still send WU who will always crash...
With results that all produced WU will comes in full error due
to the max# of error/total/success who is set by projet on 7 , 10 , 6






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Message 52480 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 17:58:32 UTC - in response to Message 52479.

The worst, is that they still send WU who will always crash...

if you happen to have a Windows XP somewhere around, use this.
The XP app still works (who knows for how long).

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Message 52481 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 18:01:45 UTC - in response to Message 52480.

Let me know if solved. For CUDA 80 only.

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Message 52484 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 19:48:30 UTC - in response to Message 52481.

Let me know if solved. For CUDA 80 only.

Solved for both windows and linux?

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Message 52485 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 20:00:39 UTC - in response to Message 52481.

Let me know if solved. For CUDA 80 only.

I just tried Linux and windows, Linux couldn't find any tasks and windows found a task but immediately errored.

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Message 52487 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 20:19:56 UTC - in response to Message 52485.

Let me know if solved. For CUDA 80 only.

I just tried Linux and windows, Linux couldn't find any tasks and windows found a task but immediately errored.



Hello, no it is not solved !
It ill be solved when PRJ will make a reneal of license and fully restat whole project and all server !
But first, they need to pay licence !

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Message 52488 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 20:21:25 UTC

Only Windows for the Short/Long apps:
https://www.gpugrid.net/apps.php

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Message 52489 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 20:51:12 UTC - in response to Message 52488.

I updated the short and long apps (version 923). Should fix the problem. As far as I know Linux was not affected.

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Message 52490 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 20:54:29 UTC - in response to Message 52489.

I updated the short and long apps (version 923). Should fix the problem. As far as I know Linux was not affected.

If the new versions work properly, where are the workunits set up to use those new versions?

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Message 52491 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 21:57:07 UTC - in response to Message 52489.

I updated the short and long apps (version 923). Should fix the problem. As far as I know Linux was not affected.

Task 21304404 on normally-reliable host 45218 (Windows 7, GTX 970) has started and is running - seemingly normally. Result likely midday tomorrow.

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Message 52493 - Posted: 12 Aug 2019 | 22:26:18 UTC - in response to Message 52464.
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Mine is running Long run Cuda 80's today on Win 10 pro Yeah.. Glad they got the Lic issue for Win10 fixed or whatever they did.

Thanks

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Message 52496 - Posted: 13 Aug 2019 | 2:10:44 UTC

I now have an application running. A rather bad initial runtime estimate, but that is typical for new versions. Likely to finish in the next 5 hours. Running under Windows 10 Pro.

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Message 52497 - Posted: 13 Aug 2019 | 2:31:52 UTC

Anyone try a 20xx card yet? It would be nice to know if the Turing is working now too.

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Message 52498 - Posted: 13 Aug 2019 | 3:15:23 UTC - in response to Message 52497.

Anyone try a 20xx card yet? It would be nice to know if the Turing is working now too.

It is still the ACEMD2 app, so Turing not working yet.

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Message 52499 - Posted: 13 Aug 2019 | 9:54:45 UTC - in response to Message 52489.

I updated the short and long apps (version 923). Should fix the problem. As far as I know Linux was not affected.


What?

Linux version has been dead since May! 3 full months.

A post of your own.
https://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=4925&nowrap=true#51818

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Message 52502 - Posted: 13 Aug 2019 | 18:25:12 UTC - in response to Message 52499.

I updated the short and long apps (version 923). Should fix the problem. As far as I know Linux was not affected.


What?

Linux version has been dead since May! 3 full months.

A post of your own.
https://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=4925&nowrap=true#51818



mmonnin,
The update is only concerning the problem about windows/nvidia licence.
It not speak about Linux. Please read all.
If you run under other than Windows, it not apply for .

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Message 52505 - Posted: 14 Aug 2019 | 2:47:43 UTC - in response to Message 52502.
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I updated the short and long apps (version 923). Should fix the problem. As far as I know Linux was not affected.


What?

Linux version has been dead since May! 3 full months.

A post of your own.
https://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=4925&nowrap=true#51818



mmonnin,
The update is only concerning the problem about windows/nvidia licence.
It not speak about Linux. Please read all.
If you run under other than Windows, it not apply for .



You are incorrect. The same thing happened last year and in May for the Linux version. The same problem is not limited to Windows. Toni didn't acknowledge it here but did in May. That's what I was pointing out.

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Message 52512 - Posted: 15 Aug 2019 | 12:45:20 UTC

Maybe I'm saying something wrong but my antivirus says that you' re site have been infected by IDP.Generic.

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Message 52519 - Posted: 22 Aug 2019 | 23:13:00 UTC - in response to Message 52512.

Maybe I'm saying something wrong but my antivirus says that you' re site have been infected by IDP.Generic.


Exclude the Boinc directories from your a/v as it's a false positive, any real virus will try to infect other files on your computer and be flagged. Boinc doesn't really have viruses, the units come from Servers and that would be bad for business so they are all well protected. What Boinc does have is alot of back and forth communication between the Servers and our pc's making it LOOK like activity a virus might do so the 'heuristics' in all a/v programs now sometimes flag it.

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Message 52520 - Posted: 23 Aug 2019 | 5:30:56 UTC - in response to Message 52519.

... What Boinc does have is alot of back and forth communication between the Servers and our pc's ...

you need to differentiate between the various BOINC projects.
While, for example, some sub-projects of LHC (like CMS) does indeed send back and forth a lot of data all the time, this is not true for GPUGRID. Once a task has been downloaded and started crunching, there is no such additional data transmission until the task is finished and being uploaded.
So GPUGRID crunching should not induce a false A/V alarm (at least not on basis of an unusual high data traffic).

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Message 52525 - Posted: 26 Aug 2019 | 0:50:04 UTC
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So I see the Windows folks got another year of license on their acemd2 app.

So why don't we Linux users get work for our tested acemd3 app so we can crunch too?

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Message 52526 - Posted: 26 Aug 2019 | 2:36:32 UTC - in response to Message 52525.

I 100% agree!

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Message 52527 - Posted: 26 Aug 2019 | 3:06:33 UTC - in response to Message 52525.

So I see the Windows folks got another year of license on their acemd2 app.

So why don't we Linux users get work for our tested acemd3 app so we can crunch too?

Have none of the project team tried rebuilding the current Linux application with no change except a new version number?

If one has, what went wrong?

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Message 52531 - Posted: 26 Aug 2019 | 21:59:14 UTC - in response to Message 52527.

So I see the Windows folks got another year of license on their acemd2 app.

So why don't we Linux users get work for our tested acemd3 app so we can crunch too?

Have none of the project team tried rebuilding the current Linux application with no change except a new version number?

If one has, what went wrong?

Why do they need to rebuild? The latest 2.03(CUDA80) and 2.04(CUDA100) acemd3 apps worked fine on all the test WU's.

Just release the bloody work units!

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Message 52532 - Posted: 27 Aug 2019 | 1:54:53 UTC - in response to Message 52531.

So I see the Windows folks got another year of license on their acemd2 app.

So why don't we Linux users get work for our tested acemd3 app so we can crunch too?

Have none of the project team tried rebuilding the current Linux application with no change except a new version number?

If one has, what went wrong?

Why do they need to rebuild? The latest 2.03(CUDA80) and 2.04(CUDA100) acemd3 apps worked fine on all the test WU's.

Just release the bloody work units!

WHY aren't they offering Linux workunits? I'm assuming that it is because the latest Linux applications no longer work, but you appear to be assuming that it is some other reason.

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Message 52533 - Posted: 27 Aug 2019 | 2:50:17 UTC - in response to Message 52532.
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Did you not run the acemd3 test WU's back in July when the new acemd3 apps were released as beta?

I did. And successfully processed every one of them on all my cards including my RTX 2080's.

If you did not change your GPUGrid Preferences to allow the beta acemd3 app then you did not test the app and receive it from the project.

https://www.gpugrid.net/prefs.php?subset=project

I did and got the app and the test WU's. All they need to do is either continue releasing the test WU's for the beta app or move it out of the beta category to the main apps category.

The acemd3 wrapper app for Linux hosts plain works.

The pertinent threads are:
New app update (acemd3)
Testing acemd3 windows

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Message 52535 - Posted: 27 Aug 2019 | 13:03:25 UTC - in response to Message 52533.
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Did you not run the acemd3 test WU's back in July when the new acemd3 apps were released as beta?

I have all the Windows 10 applications enabled, but I have no record of whether I got any acemd3 tasks or not.

You seem to be assuming that the server application for creating acemd2 tasks can create acemd3 tasks also with no programmer to update that server application first. We may need to wait for more of the project team to return from their August vacations to find out if that is correct or not.

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Message 52536 - Posted: 27 Aug 2019 | 15:55:59 UTC

Acemd3 uses OpenMM does it not? It is probably version 7.2 by now. That is the same one that Folding@Home is testing now for Core_22. And they are having problems that need fixing.

I wonder if they are related?

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Message 52537 - Posted: 27 Aug 2019 | 22:25:03 UTC - in response to Message 52535.

Did you not run the acemd3 test WU's back in July when the new acemd3 apps were released as beta?

I have all the Windows 10 applications enabled, but I have no record of whether I got any acemd3 tasks or not.

You seem to be assuming that the server application for creating acemd2 tasks can create acemd3 tasks also with no programmer to update that server application first. We may need to wait for more of the project team to return from their August vacations to find out if that is correct or not.


The license use with acemd2 just needs renewed on Linux. It expired before Windows but has yet to be renewed. Year after year this happens.

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Message 52538 - Posted: 28 Aug 2019 | 1:24:47 UTC

But Toni indicated they wanted to get away from this yearly license renewal garbage they have to deal with and just release the apps as BOINC wrapper apps that take care of themselves.

All they have to do is release work for the acemd3 app we already have. That work would be labeled for the acemd3 app.

Or go ahead and renew the acemd2 license for the old acemd2 Linux app. Why are Linux hosts being punished with no work?

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Message 52539 - Posted: 28 Aug 2019 | 7:01:36 UTC - in response to Message 52538.
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But Toni indicated they wanted to get away from this yearly license renewal garbage they have to deal with and just release the apps as BOINC wrapper apps that take care of themselves.

All they have to do is release work for the acemd3 app we already have. That work would be labeled for the acemd3 app.


Correct. Delay is just a lack of time due to other projects (lots of quality time must be allotted for addressing scheduler mysteries and follow-up problems).

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Message 52540 - Posted: 28 Aug 2019 | 15:23:55 UTC

Keith, do not get impatient. We knew, that the lack of WUs would be for several months...

My old GTX 670 is getting some “breadcrumbs” from time to time… and all my LINUX computers help other projects at the moment – they are happy about that, I assume.

My personal conclusion about the lack on GRIDCOIN WUs is again, I should not invest in “special” computer parts just for crunching BOINC. I hope I will remember this, the next time I stand in a computer shop...

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Message 52541 - Posted: 28 Aug 2019 | 20:42:24 UTC - in response to Message 52540.

Well my frustration wouldn't be so high if there were no work units for anybody once all the licenses ran out. But since Windows hosts get work now because they got a new license but we did not, I come to the conclusion that Linux hosts are considered second class citizens not deemed worthy of attention.

Also, we know the acemd3 wrapper app works. So why no work for a proven system?

I am finishing up the WOW contest tomorrow upon which time all my hosts would normally go into massive catch up mode for all my other projects. But no, that isn't going to happen with GPUGrid is it?

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Message 52542 - Posted: 29 Aug 2019 | 0:57:56 UTC - in response to Message 52536.
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Acemd3 uses OpenMM does it not? It is probably version 7.2 by now. That is the same one that Folding@Home is testing now for Core_22. And they are having problems that need fixing.

I wonder if they are related?

I've forgotten which BOINC recently found problems with the 436 driver. However, you might ask Folder@Home to check whether their problems are also related to the 436 driver.

I got a GPUGRID task today, so the Windows portion of the problem might now be workunits not being created as fast as the users become ready for them.

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Message 52545 - Posted: 29 Aug 2019 | 13:17:50 UTC - in response to Message 52539.

(lots of quality time must be allotted for addressing scheduler mysteries and follow-up problems).
This sounds to me like Toni has:
miles to go before we're sated,
miles to go before we're sated.

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Message 52546 - Posted: 29 Aug 2019 | 13:57:10 UTC - in response to Message 52545.

This sounds to me like Toni has:
miles to go before we're sated,
miles to go before we're sated.

It just means that it is August in Europe.

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