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Message 43852 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016 | 5:29:48 UTC

Hello all,

Good news!

I should be getting a computer tower that I ordered last week today (finally). It's been a long wait, but I'm so happy today is the day.

Anyways, here is the PC:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291795184443?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I will be putting my gtx 650ti boost in it once I receive it within the next 12 hours as well as my psu.

The Question is: will my cpu bottleneck the gtx 970 a lot to the point to where it's not even worth buying?

I do not have the 970 yet but that's my next goal, to get that.

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Message 43853 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016 | 7:47:44 UTC - in response to Message 43852.

That CPU will be fine for a GTX970 especially if you use the variable swan_sync to give the GPU a full core.

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Message 43854 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016 | 14:45:47 UTC

Will work if motherboard support Maxwell, could not find any info for your board. If not detected you might need to update bios.

Cpu will work fine for GPUGrid, as Betting Slip say it will be good with swan_sync on.

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Message 43857 - Posted: 2 Jul 2016 | 23:34:28 UTC - in response to Message 43854.

Thanks all!

Pardon me asking but what is swan_sync? How do I use it? Can I on this gpu? (gtx 650ti boost)

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Message 43858 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 7:13:15 UTC - in response to Message 43857.
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I am concerned you may not get a GTX970 to fit in that case looking at the layout on Ebay.

System variable "swan_sync" will not make any significant difference on a 650ti

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Message 43860 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 12:29:14 UTC - in response to Message 43857.
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Pardon me asking but what is swan_sync? How do I use it? Can I on this gpu? (gtx 650ti boost)

A simpler way is to just reserve a CPU core for the GPU. You can do that via BOINC Manager, setting the percentage of processor used so that one core is always left free. Your CPU has dual cores hyperthreaded, or 4 virtual cores. So you can set the processors used at 75% and it should leave you one core free. (Note that this is not the same as the amount of CPU time used, which should normally remain at 100%.)

You can also use an app_config.xml file to reserve a core, but that is slightly more involved. They both achieve essentially the same results as SWAN_SYNC.

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Message 43861 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 13:51:48 UTC - in response to Message 43860.

Okay, I have reserved one cpu core, thanks.

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Message 43862 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 13:52:58 UTC - in response to Message 43858.

I am concerned you may not get a GTX970 to fit in that case looking at the layout on Ebay.

System variable "swan_sync" will not make any significant difference on a 650ti



How about this?

http://imgur.com/R3tdx0I

I had to remove the dvd drive and my current one now fits. Will the 970 be bigger than my current one?

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Message 43863 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 13:54:05 UTC - in response to Message 43862.

That pic was taken before i cleaned the mess up a bit haha

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Message 43864 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 14:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 43863.

A GTX970 is about 10 and a 1/2 inches long. Have you got that space?

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Message 43865 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 14:48:33 UTC - in response to Message 43864.

A GTX970 is about 10 and a 1/2 inches long. Have you got that space?



Alright, I'll check when I get home. Thanks

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Message 43867 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 16:29:59 UTC - in response to Message 43864.

A GTX970 is about 10 and a 1/2 inches long. Have you got that space?


No, I do not have that space sadly.

Should I buy a mini gtx 970, or get a pci extender?

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Message 43870 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 17:20:36 UTC - in response to Message 43867.

A mini GTX970 will be slightly slower (3%) but also use less power and less heat. Don't overclock as they have little headroom. Buy secondhand to get a deal.

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Message 43872 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 17:22:04 UTC - in response to Message 43870.

A mini GTX970 will be slightly slower (3%) but also use less power and less heat. Don't overclock as they have little headroom. Buy secondhand to get a deal.


what do you mean buy second hand?

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Message 43873 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 21:52:21 UTC - in response to Message 43872.

Used, maybe from the likes of Ebay. I don't know which country you are from but UK prices are still quite high even if you can obtain a new one.

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Message 43876 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 23:03:46 UTC - in response to Message 43873.

Used, maybe from the likes of Ebay. I don't know which country you are from but UK prices are still quite high even if you can obtain a new one.



Ah, I see.

In america where I'm from, used gpu's of that, the prices are around the same for a new, larger gtx 970. Seems a bit crazy to me.

Well, I'm kinda stuck at what to do at this point when it comes to gpu. All of the high-end ones seem to be bigger than my case can handle....

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Message 43877 - Posted: 3 Jul 2016 | 23:05:29 UTC - in response to Message 43876.

I'd at least like to get the projects done in less than a day. Right now mine takes 1 day and 5 hours, and I still have over 20 hours to go...

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Message 43880 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016 | 9:18:46 UTC - in response to Message 43877.

I'd at least like to get the projects done in less than a day. Right now mine takes 1 day and 5 hours, and I still have over 20 hours to go...


If that is the limit for your budget I would get one because it will do more than finish a WU in 24hrs it should finish most within 12hrs

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Message 43881 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016 | 12:11:52 UTC

I'd wait a short time until they release the new app and get a 1070 or 1060.

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Message 43882 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016 | 13:06:45 UTC - in response to Message 43880.

I'd at least like to get the projects done in less than a day. Right now mine takes 1 day and 5 hours, and I still have over 20 hours to go...


If that is the limit for your budget I would get one because it will do more than finish a WU in 24hrs it should finish most within 12hrs


Sounds like a plan

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Message 43883 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016 | 13:07:07 UTC - in response to Message 43881.

I'd wait a short time until they release the new app and get a 1070 or 1060.



Aren't those cards 10.5 inches though?

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Message 43884 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016 | 16:19:28 UTC - in response to Message 43883.

I don't know how available it is right now, but Gigabyte has a mini-ITX 1070.

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5923#kf

I'm sure there will be others as the ITX form factor is very popular these days.
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Message 43886 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016 | 21:22:19 UTC - in response to Message 43884.

I don't know how available it is right now, but Gigabyte has a mini-ITX 1070.

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5923#kf

I'm sure there will be others as the ITX form factor is very popular these days.



My gosh, that is awesome!

Minigtx 1070's and I see there will probably be a mini 1080. Truly amazing. Thank you for informing me about this. I definitely will keep a sharp eye out for them!

does anybody know if there will be an announcement when gpugrid will work with the 1070 and 1080?

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Message 43887 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016 | 21:32:32 UTC - in response to Message 43886.

I don't know how available it is right now, but Gigabyte has a mini-ITX 1070.

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5923#kf

I'm sure there will be others as the ITX form factor is very popular these days.

My gosh, that is awesome!

Minigtx 1070's and I see there will probably be a mini 1080. Truly amazing. Thank you for informing me about this. I definitely will keep a sharp eye out for them!

Be advised buying such cards, as they have axial fan type cooling, that is they are emitting almost all the heat inside the case.
So these cards can heat up a Mini-ITX case in no time.

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Message 43891 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016 | 0:03:45 UTC - in response to Message 43887.

I don't know how available it is right now, but Gigabyte has a mini-ITX 1070.

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5923#kf

I'm sure there will be others as the ITX form factor is very popular these days.

My gosh, that is awesome!

Minigtx 1070's and I see there will probably be a mini 1080. Truly amazing. Thank you for informing me about this. I definitely will keep a sharp eye out for them!

Be advised buying such cards, as they have axial fan type cooling, that is they are emitting almost all the heat inside the case.
So these cards can heat up a Mini-ITX case in no time.


Ah, how about if I leave my side case open? I do right now anyways.

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Message 43892 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016 | 5:26:33 UTC - in response to Message 43891.
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Would any of you personally recommend I use this card on here since it takes about 1 day and 5-6 hours? I don't mind tasks that are longer, but this long?

I love biology, but I feel like this card is using more power and resources than things it's actually achieving. I'm not sure... I'm just having different views on some things now with my gpu.

Hope you all understand what I'm seeing.

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Message 43897 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016 | 14:33:51 UTC - in response to Message 43892.

Of course it misses the 1 day bonus, but it's still fairly efficient power-wise. Your energy usage is less than many of the cards that finish a WU in 12 hours or less.

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Message 43899 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016 | 15:40:12 UTC - in response to Message 43897.
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That 350 Watt PSU might not be up to much. The potential 110W from your GTX650Ti + 74W CPU (which is powerful enough) + ~50W from other components is probably all you want to be pulling through it. Even the 145W TDP of a GTX970 might be too much, remembering that it's an old, used PSU for a midi tower.
If I'm ever working with an older system like that I open the PSU and blow any dirt out of it with an air compressor (if it's needed and it usually is).

I suggest biding your time, waiting for a GTX1060 to be released and the ACEMD app updated to work here. The Pascal's (GTX1080 an GTX1070) don't yet work here. The GTX1070 has a TDP of 150W and the GTX1060 will probably be ~120W.
The GTX1060 will likely be released soon and match a GTX970 for throughput at GPUGrid, whenever a new app is built.

So the 1060 should use less electric than a 970, should do as much work, and might even cost a bit less too.

Heard on the rumour mill there might be cheaper 3GB 1060 option that isn't Sli capable, but Sli is not needed for here and not useful in a midi case.
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Message 43900 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016 | 16:22:40 UTC - in response to Message 43899.

Thanks all,

I see now. I have a 600 watt psu though that I replaced with my 350 watt, but that shouldn't affect power consumption negatively right?

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Message 43901 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016 | 17:09:52 UTC - in response to Message 43900.

I see now. I have a 600 watt psu though that I replaced with my 350 watt, but that shouldn't affect power consumption negatively right?

Probably not. If your 350W was stock it was probably very inefficient. If the new PS is ECO rated such as bronze, silver, gold, or platinum it should be much more efficient and your energy consumption should go down. As with any other component it's good to read reviews when you purchase a new PS.

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Message 43902 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016 | 17:32:15 UTC - in response to Message 43901.

Thanks, yeah I've had it for a while, it's a corsair cx 600m. I never even used the 350 watt with my gpu though because I didn't want to take a risk, should've made it a bit more clear haha.

Good news is that I'm getting another pc today but this one is a lower end one. Do gtx 460's still work? I see it's under no longer working but it says "needs cc 3.0, so if I get that will it work?

They are the only other gpu's I have sadly. If they don't work I'll just save for a new one I guess, thanks.

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Message 43903 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016 | 17:39:17 UTC - in response to Message 43902.
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Your Corsair is decently energy efficient: 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified. The GTX 460 is Fermi class and it's very inefficient by todays standards.

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Message 43904 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016 | 18:34:23 UTC - in response to Message 43903.

Your Corsair is decently energy efficient: 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified. The GTX 460 is Fermi class and it's very inefficient by todays standards.


Hmmm, as a temporary gpu for my 2nd pc, should I buy a gtx 650ti boost like my current one? I wouldn't bother getting a temp usually but they sell them for a pretty good deal on ebay (less than 100 dollars, or early 100's)

What do you think?

And alright, I'll have to think of something else to do with my 460 :(

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Message 43905 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016 | 18:35:10 UTC - in response to Message 43904.

Wait... I don't think that would work, I'd need an itx gpu for my 2nd pc case..

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Message 43907 - Posted: 5 Jul 2016 | 21:00:37 UTC - in response to Message 43905.

Buying a much older GPU isn't advisable. I wouldn't buy anything before the GTX900 series even if it was really, really cheap; the running costs compared to the performance is so poor. See what sort of GTX1060's turn up and there will eventually be a GTX1050 or similar. Anything with a Pascal architecture should be good for a few years (when there's a working app).
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Message 43912 - Posted: 6 Jul 2016 | 0:21:26 UTC

My opinion: wait for a GTX10xx GPU that fits your needs.

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Message 43914 - Posted: 6 Jul 2016 | 3:18:13 UTC - in response to Message 43912.

Alright, sounds like a plan, thanks all.

If you all don't mind, I'd like to do some projects on PrimeGrid too, so I won't be on here as much, but I'm not leaving though.

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