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Message 28837 - Posted: 27 Feb 2013 | 16:11:04 UTC

Among the advantages are reduced upload files.

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Message 28838 - Posted: 27 Feb 2013 | 18:45:27 UTC - in response to Message 28837.
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Among the advantages are reduced upload files.

Thank GDF :-)

PS: I live in the USA. We haven't discovered high speed internet yet...

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Message 28839 - Posted: 27 Feb 2013 | 20:15:12 UTC - in response to Message 28838.

Ditto here is Canada. It's not just the speeds it's the caps on monthly bytes transferred. Angela Merkel for Prime Minister!

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Message 28842 - Posted: 27 Feb 2013 | 20:53:47 UTC

How do we identify WUs that have reduced upload times?
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Message 28843 - Posted: 27 Feb 2013 | 21:50:05 UTC - in response to Message 28842.
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How do we identify WUs that have reduced upload times?

You can identify by the the application's version number. 6.18 is the latest in the long queue (the previos version was 6.17)

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Message 28851 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013 | 1:08:06 UTC - in response to Message 28843.
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How do we identify WUs that have reduced upload times?

You can identify by the the application's version number. 6.18 is the latest in the long queue (the previos version was 6.17)

However, I don't see any reduction in the upload size with the 6.18 client.

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Message 28852 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013 | 1:57:23 UTC

Two of my machines are failing every v6.18 WU:

�� - exit code -1 (0xffffffff)

Both ran perfectly with v6.17.

One is a GTX 460, the other a 650 TI. Any ideas?

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Message 28853 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013 | 2:23:05 UTC - in response to Message 28852.

Two of my machines are failing every v6.18 WU:
�� - exit code -1 (0xffffffff)
Both ran perfectly with v6.17.
One is a GTX 460, the other a 650 TI. Any ideas?

Installed NVIDIA v310.90 drivers and reset project. Still every v6.18 WU fails. Isn't anyone else seeing this? Of my GPUs, 3 work with v6.18 and 2 don't. All were perfect with v6.17.

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Message 28854 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013 | 3:59:31 UTC - in response to Message 28853.

DUH, nevermind, found the problem: Comodo AV.

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Message 28855 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013 | 5:57:35 UTC

That's good news you found the problem, one thing I noticed is that my GPU usage is all over the place. On my GTX670s and 680 it dips as low as 67%, on the lone GTX560 I'm still using it stays right around 99%. Anyone else notice this? It doesn't seem to effect the run times too much though.

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Message 28856 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013 | 6:41:02 UTC - in response to Message 28855.
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Mine are all pretty steady at 88-89% so far.

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Message 28868 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013 | 12:25:06 UTC - in response to Message 28852.
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Two of my machines are failing every v6.18 WU:

�� - exit code -1 (0xffffffff)

Both ran perfectly with v6.17.

One is a GTX 460, the other a 650 TI. Any ideas?



Same here, but it has only happened on my xp computer, so far. Windows 7 seems to be ok right now. See link:

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=6549840

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=6552217

Here is the log information:

2/28/2013 1:32:41 AM | GPUGRID | Computation for task App120_r1-TONI_AGGd8-12-100-RND4947_1 finished
2/28/2013 1:32:41 AM | GPUGRID | Output file App120_r1-TONI_AGGd8-12-100-RND4947_1_1 for task App120_r1-TONI_AGGd8-12-100-RND4947_1 absent
2/28/2013 1:32:41 AM | GPUGRID | Output file App120_r1-TONI_AGGd8-12-100-RND4947_1_2 for task App120_r1-TONI_AGGd8-12-100-RND4947_1 absent
2/28/2013 1:32:41 AM | GPUGRID | Output file App120_r1-TONI_AGGd8-12-100-RND4947_1_3 for task App120_r1-TONI_AGGd8-12-100-RND4947_1 absent
2/28/2013 1:32:54 AM | GPUGRID | Starting task Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0 using acemdlong version 618 (cuda42) in slot 2
2/28/2013 1:32:55 AM | GPUGRID | Started upload of App120_r1-TONI_AGGd8-12-100-RND4947_1_0
2/28/2013 1:32:55 AM | GPUGRID | Started upload of App120_r1-TONI_AGGd8-12-100-RND4947_1_4
2/28/2013 1:33:05 AM | GPUGRID | Finished upload of App120_r1-TONI_AGGd8-12-100-RND4947_1_0
2/28/2013 1:33:05 AM | GPUGRID | Started upload of App120_r1-TONI_AGGd8-12-100-RND4947_1_7
2/28/2013 1:33:06 AM | GPUGRID | Finished upload of App120_r1-TONI_AGGd8-12-100-RND4947_1_7
2/28/2013 1:38:09 AM | GPUGRID | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
2/28/2013 1:38:09 AM | GPUGRID | Reporting 1 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks
2/28/2013 1:38:13 AM | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed


2/28/2013 6:27:38 AM | GPUGRID | Computation for task Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0 finished
2/28/2013 6:27:38 AM | GPUGRID | Output file Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0_1 for task Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0 absent
2/28/2013 6:27:38 AM | GPUGRID | Output file Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0_2 for task Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0 absent
2/28/2013 6:27:38 AM | GPUGRID | Output file Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0_3 for task Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0 absent
2/28/2013 6:27:51 AM | GPUGRID | Starting task pp165_r2-TONI_AGGd8-21-100-RND4169_1 using acemdlong version 618 (cuda42) in slot 2
2/28/2013 6:27:52 AM | GPUGRID | Started upload of Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0_0
2/28/2013 6:27:52 AM | GPUGRID | Started upload of Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0_4
2/28/2013 6:28:03 AM | GPUGRID | Finished upload of Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0_0
2/28/2013 6:28:03 AM | GPUGRID | Started upload of Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0_7
2/28/2013 6:28:06 AM | GPUGRID | Finished upload of Ann090_r1-TONI_AGGd8-14-100-RND3960_0_7
2/28/2013 6:33:08 AM | GPUGRID | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
2/28/2013 6:33:08 AM | GPUGRID | Reporting 1 completed tasks, not requesting new tasks
2/28/2013 6:33:12 AM | GPUGRID | Scheduler request completed

From windows 7 computer:

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=6549243

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Message 28870 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013 | 13:18:16 UTC - in response to Message 28868.

Check to see if your antivirus or antispyware is blocking the new app, That was my problem, but didn't happen on every machine, just 2.

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Message 28879 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013 | 20:56:56 UTC - in response to Message 28870.

Only new WUs will have reduced upload sizes. The old ones will be the same.
We need to tell the code to output in a different format.
Soon all will be using the compressed format.

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Message 28880 - Posted: 28 Feb 2013 | 21:06:09 UTC

Not sure if there's more work being done by the new app or the WUs are different or maybe v6.18 is less efficient; but so far my WU times are 5-7% slower on all 5 GPUs.

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Message 28894 - Posted: 1 Mar 2013 | 10:17:25 UTC - in response to Message 28880.

it should be the same on the same workunits.

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Message 28897 - Posted: 1 Mar 2013 | 11:27:37 UTC - in response to Message 28870.

Check to see if your antivirus or antispyware is blocking the new app, That was my problem, but didn't happen on every machine, just 2.



What did you actually do with your antivirus / antispyware that fixed this problem?

And the more important question is that version 6.17 was working just fine, I didn't do anything different to this computer, along comes version 6.18, and I get errors on one of my computers, so what is the problem with 6.18?



http://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=30790


My other computer is working just fine.

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Message 28900 - Posted: 1 Mar 2013 | 13:34:07 UTC - in response to Message 28897.

What did you actually do with your antivirus / antispyware that fixed this problem?

I marked the file as trusted (Comodo AV). You can also mark rhe whole directory as trusted.

And the more important question is that version 6.17 was working just fine, I didn't do anything different to this computer, along comes version 6.18, and I get errors on one of my computers, so what is the problem with 6.18?

http://www.gpugrid.net/results.php?hostid=30790

My other computer is working just fine.

Your problem might be different as in my case the WUs would fail immediately. Yours are failing with the same exit code but are running for a good length of time first.

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Message 28901 - Posted: 1 Mar 2013 | 13:57:11 UTC - in response to Message 28900.

Your problem might be different as in my case the WUs would fail immediately. Yours are failing with the same exit code but are running for a good length of time first.

That might be the difference between an 'on access' AV check and a scheduled scan. You often have to manage the two separate sets of exclusions independently.

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Message 28902 - Posted: 1 Mar 2013 | 14:05:25 UTC - in response to Message 28894.

it should be the same on the same workunits.

gdf

OK, I have more data now, and found a commonality. All 5 have 1 NV GPU and 1 ATI. On the 3 machines running POEM on the ATI GPU:

Machine 1, GTX 460: 8-9% slower with v6.18
Machine 2, GTX 460: 3-9% slower with v6.18
Machine 3, 650 TI: 7-8% slower with v6.18

On machines running Collatz or Moo on the ATI GPU:

Machine 4, GTX 460: the same with v6.18
Machine 5, GTX 460: the same with v6.18

Interesting, the difference may be that POEM is much more CPU intensive than either Collatz or Moo. For some reason there seems to be more contention between GPUGrid & POEM (fighting for CPU time?) with v6.18.

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Message 28905 - Posted: 2 Mar 2013 | 2:38:38 UTC

BUG REPORT

Although I don't know if it is caused by the new WUs... This bug makes my system BSOD every time I shut down BOINC Manager. The message says something is wrong with:

nvlddmkm.sys

and then restarts. I had no problems with this and previous nvidia driver (310.70) and thought a fresh 314.07 drivers install would be able to make it go away. It didn't.

My system is WIN7pro/x64, only use GPUGrid and here is an excerpt from stderr.out:

Stderr output

<core_client_version>7.0.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
El sistema no puede encontrar la ruta especificada. (0x3) - exit code 3 (0x3)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
MDIO: cannot open file "restart.coor"
SWAN : FATAL : Cuda driver error 999 in file 'swanlibnv2.cpp' in line 1574.
Assertion failed: a, file swanlibnv2.cpp, line 59

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

</stderr_txt>
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the message translates to: "System can't find specified path". The error presents itself only when shuting down BOINC but has no problem when crunching the WU's.

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Message 28906 - Posted: 2 Mar 2013 | 2:47:39 UTC - in response to Message 28905.

Also, when the error presents itself, I have to manually unable starting BOINC at startup (when on safe mode), otherwise, the BSOD will appear every restart when BOINC restarts...


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Message 28912 - Posted: 2 Mar 2013 | 13:22:07 UTC

Just got this (like Jorge):

<core_client_version>7.0.52</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
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The system cannot find the path specified.
(0x3) - exit code 3 (0x3)
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MDIO: cannot open file "restart.coor"
SWAN : FATAL : Cuda driver error 999 in file 'swanlibnv2.cpp' in line 1574.
Assertion failed: a, file swanlibnv2.cpp, line 59

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

</stderr_txt>


Never saw this with v6.17. Also, it was a NOELIA WU, haven't seen it with TONI.

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Message 28914 - Posted: 2 Mar 2013 | 15:29:52 UTC - in response to Message 28879.

Only new WUs will have reduced upload sizes. The old ones will be the same.
We need to tell the code to output in a different format.
Soon all will be using the compressed format.

A new NOELIA task has as large as 164MB upload file.
It's time to tell the code to output in that different (compressed) format.

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Message 28915 - Posted: 2 Mar 2013 | 17:02:28 UTC

While running my first 6.18 long run task my laptop locked up and I had to do a hard reboot. After the system was back up this WU had terminated with an error. The details are below. However, I have run two 6.18 WUs successfully since then. It appears one other host also terminated with an error on this WU.

The NOELIA WUs seem to be averaging about 80% utilization GTX 680M and the run times are over 18 hours. I don't know much effect having to share CPU time is having on these numbers.

Error Details:

i7-3740QM 16GB - Win7 Pro x64 - GTX 680m (Alienware 9.18.13.717)
GPU: dedicated to GPUGRID - CPU: SETI, Poem, Milkyway, WUProp, FreeHAL

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Work Unit: 4209987 (041px21x2-NOELIA_041p-0-2-RND9096_0)

Stderr output

<core_client_version>7.0.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
The system cannot find the path specified. (0x3) - exit code 3 (0x3)
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<stderr_txt>
MDIO: cannot open file "restart.coor"
SWAN : FATAL : Cuda driver error 999 in file 'swanlibnv2.cpp' in line 1574.
Assertion failed: a, file swanlibnv2.cpp, line 59

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

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Message 28922 - Posted: 2 Mar 2013 | 20:38:52 UTC

I thought Noelia asked us to report bugs in the other thread she started a couple days ago?

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Message 28925 - Posted: 2 Mar 2013 | 23:40:46 UTC - in response to Message 28905.

BUG REPORT

Although I don't know if it is caused by the new WUs... This bug makes my system BSOD every time I shut down BOINC Manager. The message says something is wrong with:

nvlddmkm.sys

and then restarts. I had no problems with this and previous nvidia driver (310.70) and thought a fresh 314.07 drivers install would be able to make it go away. It didn't.

My system is WIN7pro/x64, only use GPUGrid and here is an excerpt from stderr.out:

Stderr output

<core_client_version>7.0.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
El sistema no puede encontrar la ruta especificada. (0x3) - exit code 3 (0x3)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
MDIO: cannot open file "restart.coor"
SWAN : FATAL : Cuda driver error 999 in file 'swanlibnv2.cpp' in line 1574.
Assertion failed: a, file swanlibnv2.cpp, line 59

This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information.

</stderr_txt>
]]>


the message translates to: "System can't find specified path". The error presents itself only when shuting down BOINC but has no problem when crunching the WU's.



I got the same error. The WU was running normally, when I rebooted the computer. After reboot the WU crashed.

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=6558798

Application 6.18 is turning into a nightmare, too many errors. Let go back to 6.17, and send 6.18 back to beta.

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Message 28928 - Posted: 3 Mar 2013 | 3:58:52 UTC

After the new drivers where installed (which didn't solve the problem) I reinitiated GPUGrid and uninstalled/reinstalled BOINC. Hope this will fix the problem.

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Message 28949 - Posted: 4 Mar 2013 | 6:12:52 UTC

6.18 apps do have a problem (70% sure about that ;) )

here's how to reproduce the windows crashes (BSOD's) (I do not know if all these steps are necessary, but they are enough for me, system has to have at least 3 useable -not physical, but "logical"- GPU's):

step 1: make a config file to use some GPU's and disable others so that at least 2 of them are available to GPUGrid.
step 2: download some 6.18 long units (at least are 3 necessary)
step 3: while crunching, suspend and then restart your workunits in the BOINC tab "tasks" so that your gpu's cycle amongst all of them.
step 3: keep doing this until BSOD

WARNING (if I am correct) your system WILL crash. Save all data first. When your system first crashes, it will keep doing so after every restart if you have set BOINC to open at logon. To rescue your system you have to logon in safe mode, start BOINC and disable it (e.g. by setting it to suspend GPU computation when system is in use).

I have succesfully run a few workunits after new drivers and BOINC where reinstalled. Ocassionally, the system screen would black out, but would never crash if I havn't got to play with the steps above first.

BOINC is not the problem, as I had a working system with 7.0.28 regardless of the steps I described for you above (and with 6.17 apps). using win7 x64 edition and a combination of 1 gtx690 (2 gpus) and a gt640 for this tests.

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Message 28977 - Posted: 4 Mar 2013 | 19:10:30 UTC - in response to Message 28949.
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windows crashes (BSOD's) (I do not know if all these steps are necessary, but they are enough for me, system has to have at least 3 useable -not physical, but "logical"- GPU's):

Not sure if this applies but just saw this warning:

"Microsoft pushes another botched automatic update":

"If you had Windows set for automatic updates last Tuesday, Feb 26, and you run 64-bit Windows 7, you may have been hit by the latest bad patch. KB 2670838 -- known officially as a "Platform Update for Windows 7 x64-Edition" -- appears to be the source of a blue screen problem, where Internet Explorer 9, in particular, stops working and throws a "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" error identifying the video driver (the reports I've seen cite igdpmd64.sys) as the source of the BSOD."

http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/microsoft-pushes-another-botched-automatic-update-213802?source=IFWNLE_nlt_blogs_2013-03-04

Edit: Personally I avoid IE like the plague.

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Message 28979 - Posted: 4 Mar 2013 | 19:49:22 UTC - in response to Message 28977.

windows crashes (BSOD's) (I do not know if all these steps are necessary, but they are enough for me, system has to have at least 3 useable -not physical, but "logical"- GPU's):

Not sure if this applies but just saw this warning:

"Microsoft pushes another botched automatic update":

"If you had Windows set for automatic updates last Tuesday, Feb 26, and you run 64-bit Windows 7, you may have been hit by the latest bad patch. KB 2670838 -- known officially as a "Platform Update for Windows 7 x64-Edition" -- appears to be the source of a blue screen problem, where Internet Explorer 9, in particular, stops working and throws a "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" error identifying the video driver (the reports I've seen cite igdpmd64.sys) as the source of the BSOD."

http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/microsoft-pushes-another-botched-automatic-update-213802?source=IFWNLE_nlt_blogs_2013-03-04

Edit: Personally I avoid IE like the plague.

Looking at my Windows 7/64 computer, Microsoft Update is telling me "No important updates available": that update is listed as available, but optional.

My automatic settings for important updates are set to "Download updates, but let me choose whether to install them" - KB2670838 wasn't even listed until I went looking for it.

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Message 28987 - Posted: 4 Mar 2013 | 23:54:27 UTC - in response to Message 28979.

windows crashes (BSOD's) (I do not know if all these steps are necessary, but they are enough for me, system has to have at least 3 useable -not physical, but "logical"- GPU's):

Not sure if this applies but just saw this warning:

"Microsoft pushes another botched automatic update":

"If you had Windows set for automatic updates last Tuesday, Feb 26, and you run 64-bit Windows 7, you may have been hit by the latest bad patch. KB 2670838 -- known officially as a "Platform Update for Windows 7 x64-Edition" -- appears to be the source of a blue screen problem, where Internet Explorer 9, in particular, stops working and throws a "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" error identifying the video driver (the reports I've seen cite igdpmd64.sys) as the source of the BSOD."

http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/microsoft-pushes-another-botched-automatic-update-213802?source=IFWNLE_nlt_blogs_2013-03-04

Edit: Personally I avoid IE like the plague.

Looking at my Windows 7/64 computer, Microsoft Update is telling me "No important updates available": that update is listed as available, but optional.

My automatic settings for important updates are set to "Download updates, but let me choose whether to install them" - KB2670838 wasn't even listed until I went looking for it.

I think I ran into it a couple hours ago. I accidentally clicked Windows media Center on one of my remote machines and it crashed the NVidia driver. Never saw that before (WMC probably starts up a lot of IE code), and yes the new "Platform Update for Windows 7" was installed. It took a cold reboot to get things back working again.

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Message 28988 - Posted: 5 Mar 2013 | 0:13:25 UTC - in response to Message 28977.

windows crashes (BSOD's) (I do not know if all these steps are necessary, but they are enough for me, system has to have at least 3 useable -not physical, but "logical"- GPU's):

Not sure if this applies but just saw this warning:

"Microsoft pushes another botched automatic update":

"If you had Windows set for automatic updates last Tuesday, Feb 26, and you run 64-bit Windows 7, you may have been hit by the latest bad patch. KB 2670838 -- known officially as a "Platform Update for Windows 7 x64-Edition" -- appears to be the source of a blue screen problem, where Internet Explorer 9, in particular, stops working and throws a "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" error identifying the video driver (the reports I've seen cite igdpmd64.sys) as the source of the BSOD."

http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/microsoft-pushes-another-botched-automatic-update-213802?source=IFWNLE_nlt_blogs_2013-03-04

Edit: Personally I avoid IE like the plague.


I do have that update installed. I'll get into it and see if this has been buggin my system. (I also dont use IE)

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Message 28995 - Posted: 5 Mar 2013 | 23:26:31 UTC

I just had a segfault on a new Noelia. I had a very similar segfault on a short NATHAN earlier, so I don't think it's Noelia's fault.

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Message 29005 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013 | 13:28:51 UTC - in response to Message 28979.

From the article, "its status was changed from Important to Optional on Thursday".
Having automatic updates enabled is a bad setting for crunching, unless you want your computer to update in the middle of the night and then sit idle until you wake up and log on.

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Message 29011 - Posted: 6 Mar 2013 | 15:49:40 UTC - in response to Message 29005.

From the article, "its status was changed from Important to Optional on Thursday".
Having automatic updates enabled is a bad setting for crunching, unless you want your computer to update in the middle of the night and then sit idle until you wake up and log on.

In my case I have windows update set to "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them". I saw the "important" update ready to DL and install so I did on several machines. Turned out to be a bad idea...

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Message 29090 - Posted: 9 Mar 2013 | 4:24:39 UTC

My rig has recently been able to crunch some data, although more than one variable was changed after the BSOD's:

1) There are reports of new tasks and that they have been modified to temporarily deal with "a" problem: here, here and here.

2) I have only crunched Nathan tasks but apparently the troublesome ones where Noelias'.

3) Since the last BSOD, I have uninstalled a windows update as was first noted here.

My rig is working fine, but 3 variables have changed since my ast BSOD, therefore I could not determine which one variable (or combination of them) was affecting on the system crashes.

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