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Message 27842 - Posted: 26 Dec 2012 | 10:20:48 UTC
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Hi,
so we have queued around 20,000 new wu in these days. This is unusual for us.

The WUs will last only two steps, so they should be all over by early January ready for analysis.
They look a lot, but in fact each is a much shorter sequence of other WUs which last for even 100 steps and take months to complete.

The idea is to have very many different runs which come back very quickly. Instead of taking months, we will take just weeks to do an experiment this way. Of course we need to see if the analysis says that it's ok.

As we never run so many and so long each step, we had some problems in the process. Some of which were visible, like the upload size too large and some were not visible to you (e.g. storage on server).

All this is also useful to learn and prepare the system to execute such large batches without problems.
The new application in January will also help in this.

thanks everybody and happy new year.

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Message 27844 - Posted: 26 Dec 2012 | 14:19:57 UTC - in response to Message 27842.


The WUs will last only two steps,


But double-precision will be not needed ?

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Message 27845 - Posted: 26 Dec 2012 | 16:29:39 UTC

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Message 28090 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013 | 16:13:19 UTC

In the past month my modest GTX 460 has processed 36 NOELIA long WUs. Of these, 6 stopped with errors, 23 gave me the full bonus, and 7 missed the bonus by just a few minutes. I’m looking forward to the promised reduction in result-upload times…

Today, after a month of only NOELIA WUs, I got a TONI. Welcome back, TONI! No problem of missed bonuses with you!!!
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Message 28091 - Posted: 20 Jan 2013 | 19:58:30 UTC - in response to Message 28090.

Perhaps when the remaining NOELIA WUs are complete we will see a new app?
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Message 28096 - Posted: 21 Jan 2013 | 13:17:49 UTC - in response to Message 28091.

yes, we are waiting for it to finish.

This week we start testing on beta the new application.

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Message 28098 - Posted: 21 Jan 2013 | 14:45:03 UTC - in response to Message 28090.

Today, after a month of only NOELIA WUs, I got a TONI. Welcome back, TONI! No problem of missed bonuses with you!!!

I've just finished a second TONI and now I'm running a NATHAN for the first time since 12 December. I'd forgotten that NATHANs are PC killers. For the first 10 minutes I could do nothing till a reboot. Then things settled down and all is well, for the moment...

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Message 28112 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013 | 14:31:44 UTC - in response to Message 28090.

Today, after a month of only NOELIA WUs, I got a TONI. Welcome back, TONI!

Thankfully, now I can run the project again too.
TGFT (Thank Gdf For Tonis)

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Message 28118 - Posted: 22 Jan 2013 | 15:04:11 UTC - in response to Message 28112.

Thankfully, now I can run the project again too.
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Message 28233 - Posted: 27 Jan 2013 | 9:26:45 UTC - in response to Message 28090.
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In the past month my modest GTX 460 has processed 36 NOELIA long WUs. Of these, 6 stopped with errors, 23 gave me the full bonus, and 7 missed the bonus by just a few minutes. I’m looking forward to the promised reduction in result-upload times…

Today, after a month of only NOELIA WUs, I got a TONI. Welcome back, TONI! No problem of missed bonuses with you!!!

There are another 20.000 NOELIA_hfXA_long workunits in the long queue. They are only two step deep just like before (so they will run out quickly), but their running time has been reduced by 10% (5.5M steps instead of 6M steps), so there will be less missed bonus this time. The second piece of good news is that the number of earned credits hasn't been reduced.

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Message 28234 - Posted: 27 Jan 2013 | 9:43:37 UTC

But i think the upload size is still (nearly) the same?
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Message 28235 - Posted: 27 Jan 2013 | 10:13:16 UTC - in response to Message 28234.

There have been no app changes since the 6.16 to 6.17 rename. 6.48 is also still the beta app,
http://www.gpugrid.net/apps.php
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