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Message 25650 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 10:46:03 UTC
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I have uploaded the new cuda4.2 app for the acemd2 queue. Later in the afternoon the Linux app.
The long queue will join in a week if these tests go well.

Please post here any problem.

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Message 25653 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 12:50:08 UTC - in response to Message 25650.

My "wrong client sent" problem persists:
I've received a cuda4.2 task, and immediately after that a cuda3.1 task.

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Message 25654 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 13:21:29 UTC
Last modified: 12 Jun 2012 | 13:43:33 UTC

Win7x64, BOINC 7.0.25, GTX670, 301.42
Still only getting BETA but am getting the correct app version.

5489046 3494397 12 Jun 2012 | 13:19:41 UTC 17 Jun 2012 | 13:19:41 UTC In progress --- --- --- ACEMD beta version v6.46 (cuda42)
5488924 3494311 12 Jun 2012 | 13:16:21 UTC 12 Jun 2012 | 13:19:41 UTC Completed and validated 63.75 61.92 150.00 ACEMD beta version v6.46 (cuda42)


[edit] I had also checked the acemd standard box and pulled more betas before posting. I may try turning off beta as I am assuming that beta wus are fed at a higher priority?
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Message 25655 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 13:23:01 UTC
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Wondering the same myself. Are we to select ACEMD standard (short queue) tasks as well? Or are these in the Beta section still?

I allowed tasks for Beta, and they're still the short 60 sec Beta tasks

EDIT:

Nevermind, ticked short queue task box, and 4.2 are downloading. Will report back shortly.

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Message 25656 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 13:42:52 UTC - in response to Message 25653.

My "wrong client sent" problem persists:
I've received a cuda4.2 task, and immediately after that a cuda3.1 task.


Anybody with the same problem?

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Message 25658 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 14:06:25 UTC

Both 680's and the single 670 have all downloaded 2 tasks of CUDA 4.2 apiece. All running smoothly so far.

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Message 25659 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 14:16:00 UTC - in response to Message 25658.

Both 680's and the single 670 have all downloaded 2 tasks of CUDA 4.2 apiece. All running smoothly so far.

Did you have to uncheck "BETA" to get these?
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Message 25660 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 14:19:01 UTC
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Yes. Also uncheck Run Test apps and BETA tasks.

Only select ACEMD standard (short queue).

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Message 25662 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 14:55:13 UTC
Last modified: 12 Jun 2012 | 14:58:14 UTC

RUNTIMES:

On a 3820@ 4.3 PCIe. 3.0 with 6 tasks WCG running (All GPUs are stock clocks):

680@ 1110MHz= 4,392.26 seconds (SWAN_sync=0 active by default?) & 92% utilization
680@ 1084MHz= 4,478.54 seconds (SWAN_sync=0 active by default?) & 91% utilization

i52500k@ 4.2 with 3 tasks WCG running

GB 670@ 1188MHz= 4547.91 seconds SWAN_sync=0 active as well & 94% utilization

All of these tasks were MJH

EDIT: With 8100 points a piece, these runtimes actually fall in line with the long queue runtime/points. 570 long= 36,000-40,000=81,000 points.

Quite happy with the utilization and everything. Good work GPUgrid team!! Will report back when some PAOLA- 3EKO tasks complete.

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Message 25663 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 15:28:38 UTC - in response to Message 25656.
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My "wrong client sent" problem persists:
I've received a cuda4.2 task, and immediately after that a cuda3.1 task.

Anybody with the same problem?

Stoneageman's host have the same problem.

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Message 25664 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 15:42:08 UTC - in response to Message 25663.

Do you have the same boinc client version?
Does anybody don't have the problem with a fermi card?

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Message 25665 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 15:52:55 UTC - in response to Message 25664.

My BOINC client is v6.10.60, Stoneageman's is v7.0.28.

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Message 25667 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 16:19:34 UTC - in response to Message 25664.
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Hosts with the "wrong client sent" problem:
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They are not so hard to spot from the top list of hosts. This problem is not so conspicuous for the average cruncher, since they were instructed to use old drivers, or even if they use new drivers they usually crunch long tasks only.

EDIT:

I've found two more
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Message 25669 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 16:54:32 UTC

I've got the feeling that the cuda4.2 application is less tolerant of GPU overclocking.

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Message 25670 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 17:08:06 UTC

Why do you say that? And for kepler or fermi? Or both?

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Message 25671 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 17:26:48 UTC - in response to Message 25670.
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I've got the feeling that the cuda4.2 application is less tolerant of GPU overclocking.

Why do you say that? And for kepler or fermi? Or both?

ATM I have Fermi cards only, so I don't have any experiences with Kepler.
A few cuda4.2 tasks have failed on my GTX 590 @ 725MHz, so I've set it to 700MHz, also on my GTX 580 @ 850MHz, so I've raised its voltage to 1075mV. Since then they are crunching fine (36 minutes).
BTW we have nothing to compare the overclock ability of the cuda4.2 client on Kepler to, since the cuda3.1 client didn't work on that chip.

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Message 25673 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 17:52:33 UTC

Interesting. Will have to try and OC one of them when i get back home.

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Message 25676 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 19:49:16 UTC - in response to Message 25669.

I've got the feeling that the cuda4.2 application is less tolerant of GPU overclocking.

This could well be: the more performance you extract from a GPU, the harder it has to work (generally).

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Message 25677 - Posted: 12 Jun 2012 | 20:50:26 UTC - in response to Message 25676.
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The cuda4.2 tasks have failed on my GTX 590 @ 700MHz, and at 650MHz too, so now it's running at factory default 607MHz.
I've received cuda3.1 tasks on this host, so I can't experiment with cuda4.2 vs overclocking for a while.

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Message 25690 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012 | 12:27:50 UTC

Possible issues (annoyances really)

1) The IBUCH tasks on the 4.2 app w/ a 680 only run at roughly 56%. While I really don't care about this fact, with Kepler, this is apparently low enough of a percentage to not kick in the boost feature. Meaning, that these tasks drop down to I think a certain "stepping point" + my offset. I can raise my offset to correct for this, but if I am not here when another task loads, the offset will most likely cause a crash. Especially if a MJH were to pop up, since an offset of +100 would put me up to about 1210MHz. Which brings me to my next point.

2) My GB 670, which is stock OC to 1188 HARD crashed yesterday. I actually had to go into Safe Mode in order to reinstall the driver. So RZ, you may be right and CUDA 4.2 is much less tolerant of OCing. If this is the case, than I believe a sticky may need to be created in regards to this. We don't want people buying OCed cards (cost more) if they will fail constantly. Temps are VERY manageable, even with a reference card. Right now I've got my 680's at 1135MHz, and I'm hoping to reach 1150MHz before I crash.

So, in short, point one is really more of a personal annoyance, but still an issue in regards to utilization (overall) and the boost feature. Don't think IBUCH are in the long queue, so this problem should fix itself. As for the OC cards, we may have to wait and see, but I'll keep everyone posted with my progress with Kepler.

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Message 25692 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012 | 12:56:44 UTC - in response to Message 25690.

5pot ... come join us in the OC thread :-)
http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=2830

My 670 has been just fine at 1249, no swan_sync, no lag, good runtimes!
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Message 25698 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012 | 14:06:11 UTC

Saw that after I had posted. May need to OC my memory to see if it helps stability.

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Message 25702 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012 | 18:52:28 UTC - in response to Message 25690.

Possible issues (annoyances really)
2) My GB 670, which is stock OC to 1188 HARD crashed yesterday. I actually had to go into Safe Mode in order to reinstall the driver. So RZ, you may be right and CUDA 4.2 is much less tolerant of OCing. If this is the case, than I believe a sticky may need to be created in regards to this.


It's not specifically cuda4.2 as cuda4.0 failed on my 580 (8% OC) with the same error.

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