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Message 25258 - Posted: 26 May 2012 | 11:50:18 UTC

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Please provide information on your GTX 590 experiences. What is your computer configuration? What processor are you using? What operating system do you run? What size power supply do you have? Did you wreck any smaller power supplies when you started with your 590?

Will the 590 work with Windows XP 32-bit?

What type of RAC did you receive from the 590?

Would you buy the 590 again or would you go with 2 GTX 570s?
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Message 25261 - Posted: 26 May 2012 | 13:48:57 UTC

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If memory serves me correctly, I believe that when WirelessDude was running GPUGRID, late last year, his RAC was one of the highest on record.

One of his PC's ID# 109655, had 4 GTX 590's back upped by an Intel
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5650 @ 2.67GHz [Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 2]
(24 processors), running on Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)

In his hay day, I think he had a total of 8 GTX 590s on 3 PCs.

If more info is needed, you would have to contact WirelessDude.

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Message 25262 - Posted: 26 May 2012 | 14:21:39 UTC - in response to Message 25261.

We have 2 PC's with 590 on Linux, both 750W power supply. Both cards on stock clocks. CPU Intel i7.

One card (2 GPUs) receives 330k credits per day with longrun tasks.

But it's very hard to cool down these cards. If you crunch 7x24 you have to setup fans to maximum speed (90%) and temperatures are about 87°C.

PS: Two 570's are much more better than one 590, I think.

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Message 25264 - Posted: 26 May 2012 | 14:23:56 UTC - in response to Message 25261.

Rayzor:

Thanks for the info. I have an existing system with an over clocked GTX 580 in it and I want to replace that 580 with a 590. The computer has an 850W PSU and Windows XP 32-bit. I have other computers that could take the 590 but the RAC on XP is great and I want to maximize the performance with this card.

The specs call for an 850W PSU, and the card as a power requirement of just under 400W. That should leave plenty of room on an 850W PSU.

I am also a little concerned that I will run out of RAM with a 32-bit OS.

Perhaps Wirelessdude will help me.
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Message 25266 - Posted: 26 May 2012 | 14:41:27 UTC - in response to Message 25264.

The specs call for an 850W PSU, and the card as a power requirement of just under 400W. That should leave plenty of room on an 850W PSU.


plenty!

I am also a little concerned that I will run out of RAM with a 32-bit OS.


you got the left-over of 4 gigs on that host. unless you try to run big cpu-tasks alongside, you will not run into problems.

just in case you want to know what to choose - check there:
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/results/ram.py?plateforme=win&tri=projet&sort=asc

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Message 25267 - Posted: 26 May 2012 | 14:41:32 UTC - in response to Message 25264.

Why not the GTX690?
It's much better than the GTX590.
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Message 25274 - Posted: 26 May 2012 | 20:28:40 UTC - in response to Message 25258.
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Hi Paul!

My main cruncher PC's configuration is:
Intel Core i7-980x (running at 26x160MHz = 4.16GHz)
Gigabyte GA-X58-OC motherboard
Some 3x2GB 1600MHz DDR3 memory
Corsair AX-1200 PSU (here is a really useful review about this PSU)
Two GTX 590s, both running at 725MHz (a Gainward and an ASUS), fans set to 95%. The RAC of each card is between 350k and 400k.
Case: none (the motherboard is actually on the floor)
Operating system: Windows XP x64 SP2.
A couple of 12cm ventilators

Usually 4 GPUGrid tasks are running on this host with swan_sync=0 applied, and 2 rosetta@home (CPU only) tasks are running at the same time.

Total power consumption (measured at the 220V AC outlet) is 1000W (±20W depending on the type of the GPUGrid workunit running)
The GPU temperatures are 87°C and 80°C (inner card), 82°C and 76°C (outer card). (at 22°C ambient temperature)

Previously I had an LC-Power LC-1000 V2.3 Legion X2 PSU, but it failed after 6 months. At that time this PC had different configuration consuming about 800W.

The GTX 590 works well with Windows XP 32 bit, but the memory could be short, if you run memory consuming CPU tasks at the same time. That's why I changed to XP x64.

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Message 25284 - Posted: 27 May 2012 | 11:51:51 UTC

It should be a matter of days until the app is released, which also runs on Keplers. So far they perform pretty good at GPU-Grid. We don't have hard numbers on power consumption yet, but they'll save a significant amount of money crunching 24/7 - and hence justify a higher purchase cost.

Not sure about the GTX690 for 1000$, but GTX670 is certainly worth its money.

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Message 25287 - Posted: 27 May 2012 | 12:53:11 UTC - in response to Message 25267.

Thanks for the info.

Here are some responses to a few of the questions:

Skgiven:
The 590 is an option for 2 reasons. First, it has drivers for Windows XP. Initial reports indicate the 6x0 series will only support Windows 7 and Linux. Second, I think I can find one on craigslist for about $500 - $600. The 690 would be great if I had lots of money :-)

HA-SOFT:
Two 570s or 580s would be a better solution but I am running out of slots on my computers. I have 2 open slots and would like to get as much power as possible. I may get 1 590 for my WinXP machine and get 1 580 for my Win 7 machine. Today I can get 580s on ebay for about $300 and I expect to see that price drop as the 670s and 680s become available.

Cooling is a big issue and I may have 2 shut down a couple of computers for the summer. The 590 sounds like it could be a real cooling problem.

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Message 25295 - Posted: 27 May 2012 | 17:22:16 UTC - in response to Message 25287.
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The recommended 301.42 WHQL driver should support a GTX690 on XP - at least it says it does at the NVidia site.
Earlier WHQL and Beta drivers didn't support Kepler on XP - a point I raised.
You're concern about the price is fair enough though - you might save $100 per year with a Kepler, but you would be a long time saving >$400.
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Message 25306 - Posted: 28 May 2012 | 9:48:27 UTC - in response to Message 25295.

Got a GTX 590 on ebay for less than $500 with shipping. I hope it works correctly. In a few years, I can upgrade my GTX 590 with 690s when they hit the secondary market.

I will keep you posted on the progress. I hope to have the 590 by the end of this week. Once it is installed, I will move around all of my GTX 570s and 580s to the other computers.

The goal is a RAC of 1,000,000 or more.

Are we getting any closer to understanding proteins? I only participate in GPUGrid for one reason and after thousands of hours, thousands of dollars and trillions of calculations, it would be nice to know if we are making any progress at all.
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Message 25307 - Posted: 28 May 2012 | 10:05:45 UTC - in response to Message 25306.

"Understanding Proteins" is a puzzle with many many parts. However, I think we're steadily making progress. You might want to take a look at the publications linked on the front page.. although they're not exactly "belles lettres".

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Message 25459 - Posted: 2 Jun 2012 | 21:20:40 UTC - in response to Message 25295.
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Hi Paul !
As you can see by clicking my nicname, I have 2 GTX 590, none overclocked, all with latest available drivers and BOINC 7.0.28.

System 1 : Win 7 X64, MSI GTX 590 , ANTEC 1200W PSU
System 2 : Linux AMD64, GIGABYTE GTX 590, COOLER MASTER 850W PSU

Planning a GTX 690 when apps available (and some more $ or € )
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Message 25470 - Posted: 3 Jun 2012 | 11:59:58 UTC - in response to Message 25459.

You might want to sell one of the cards to Paul, then :)

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Message 25471 - Posted: 3 Jun 2012 | 12:25:22 UTC - in response to Message 25470.

You might want to sell one of the cards to Paul, then :)

Sure, I'll wait for an offer then ;-)
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Message 25474 - Posted: 3 Jun 2012 | 13:52:27 UTC - in response to Message 25471.

My first GTX 590 is up and running at 662 MHz. Lots of fans are keeping it cool.

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Message 25478 - Posted: 3 Jun 2012 | 21:11:44 UTC - in response to Message 25474.

Paul,

What were your reasons for buying a 590 at this time rather than wait for the 690? I understand a 590 can be had for half (or less) of a 690 but were there other reasons?

The 590 is actually getting difficult to find.

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Message 25479 - Posted: 3 Jun 2012 | 23:46:48 UTC - in response to Message 25478.

I have 2 reasons:

1. Price. The GTX 590 is < $500 US on ebay
2. Slots - I am almost out of slots on my existing PCs.

The 590 went into my XP system and is running very well. I would like to get another one and then I will be done for a while - unless I can find another PC.

The 600 series is very expensive. I am happy to stay 1 generation back if it saves me hundreds of dollars. I hear we might find some used GTX 590s from GPUGrid crunchers that plan to upgrade to the 690.


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Message 25490 - Posted: 4 Jun 2012 | 14:31:48 UTC - in response to Message 25479.

Help - My GTX 590 is only showing 1 GPU!

The computer rebooted overnight and now I only see 1 GPU. I reinstalled the drivers. Should I try a complete uninstall and reinstall?

Yikes??

Do I need multiple monitors attached to start the GPUs?
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Message 25491 - Posted: 4 Jun 2012 | 16:12:40 UTC - in response to Message 25474.

My first GTX 590 is up and running at 662 MHz. Lots of fans are keeping it cool.


...Help - My GTX 590 is only showing 1 GPU!

The computer rebooted overnight and now I only see 1 GPU. I reinstalled the drivers. Should I try a complete uninstall and reinstall?


Why don't you try factory settings on your GPU ? Or is this a factory
overclocked one ?
By the way move to 301.42 driver, seems to be available for X32 OS...

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Message 25495 - Posted: 4 Jun 2012 | 18:48:05 UTC - in response to Message 25491.

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Message 25497 - Posted: 4 Jun 2012 | 20:00:34 UTC - in response to Message 25491.

It was all running fine yesterday. Everything is back to factory defaults. I deleted the device from device manager and going through reloading all of the drivers. Dang - this takes hours for all of the reboots.
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Message 25501 - Posted: 5 Jun 2012 | 0:13:16 UTC - in response to Message 25497.

Solved - 301.42 drivers. I am still not sure what happened. The 275 and 285 drivers would not work.

Now all is well - at least for a while.
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Message 25502 - Posted: 5 Jun 2012 | 1:00:01 UTC - in response to Message 25274.

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Did you select the 980x specifically for gpugrid crunching?

If you were to rebuild your rig today with gtx 690's in mind, which cpu would you select, and why?

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Message 25505 - Posted: 5 Jun 2012 | 11:33:17 UTC - in response to Message 25502.

Did you select the 980x specifically for gpugrid crunching?

Yes I did it to have two real PCIe2 x16 slots. But an i7-970 can do almost the same work, and it can be overclocked the same as the 980x (in an appropriate motherboard).
The i7-8xx series CPUs are also fine in a motherboard with two real PCIe2 x16 slots. I'm using an ASUS P7P55 WS Supercomputer motherboard with two GTX 480s.
However, the higher the GPU utilization of a given workunit, the less it could gain from the higher PCIe bandwith. The present-day workunits are running with high (98-99%) GPU utilization (on WinXP), but I think there will be lesser GPU utilizing (80-85%) workunits in the future.

If you were to rebuild your rig today with gtx 690's in mind, which cpu would you select, and why?

First, I would select a socket 2011 motherboard with 4 PCIe3 x16 connectors (like Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 or GA-X79-UD7, ASUS P9X79WS or Rampage IV Extreme or Rampage IV Formula), to have 2 empty slots between the GPUs to allow better airflow.
I think, the i7-3820 would do fine, but even so I would choose the i7-3930K (because it has 6 cores, and an unlocked CPU/BCLK ratio).
There is not too much choice of FCLGA2011 CPUs available yet, so I would wait until the 22nm process will be introduced to the FCLGA2011 CPUs.

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Message 25506 - Posted: 5 Jun 2012 | 11:43:45 UTC

Those with four slots on 2011 are x16, x16, x16 and x8 speeds. 40 lanes max. And if you are buying one FOR JUST THIS PROJECT, I would buy a 38i20 and turn hyperthreading off. If you plan to run CPU projects as well, then yes, if got the cash go for a 3930k. A 3820 can OC to 4.3 with multi though. Really not much benefit in going any higher IMHO.

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