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Message 13091 - Posted: 9 Oct 2009 | 13:56:23 UTC

Is the problem whit GTX 260, OK now?? And if that the case, what drivers and boinc version is recomanded??

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Message 13097 - Posted: 10 Oct 2009 | 1:05:13 UTC - in response to Message 13091.

Is the problem whit GTX 260, OK now?? And if that the case, what drivers and boinc version is recomanded??


In a word - No. Your best bet for the GTX260's is use them on another project until nVidia can fix things or the project comes up with a work around. If you do want to use them for GPUgrid expect around a 50% (or worse) error rate, depending on the mix of work units that you get.

The last working set of drivers (for the GTX260) was the 182.50, but they only support cuda 2.1. The current app needs at least cuda 2.2 so that means the 185.xx drivers, or later are required.

The project is currently recommending BOINC 6.10.3, however I have found 6.10.7 .11 and now .13 seems to be stable from my testing.
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Message 13099 - Posted: 10 Oct 2009 | 1:19:09 UTC - in response to Message 13097.

We are implementing a workaround, which is quite drastic. We will make an application just for 260 which does not use PME. Clearly only some workunits can run there, but at least we move on without waiting.
When in place, it will be advertised from the news.

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Message 13103 - Posted: 10 Oct 2009 | 7:06:14 UTC - in response to Message 13099.

Please have it as an option not as default. Not all is affected by this bug.
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Message 13104 - Posted: 10 Oct 2009 | 7:20:53 UTC - in response to Message 13103.

Please have it as an option not as default. Not all is affected by this bug.

Agreed, I have been running my GTX260s for months and I don't think I have seen this problem at all, or at most once or twice in all that time. Though I am now running another project in parallel so my GPU Grid run time on those cards is reduced, I am still not that avid to lose more compute time if it is not needed...

Of course, given no choice I can always select other projects for the GTX260 cards and move on ... though I would rather not ...

Options are a good thing ... :)

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Message 13106 - Posted: 10 Oct 2009 | 7:45:18 UTC - in response to Message 13104.

It would not matter if you GTX260 works, then it will also work with the second application. It is just more work for us, that we need to maintain two queues.

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Message 13110 - Posted: 10 Oct 2009 | 9:13:57 UTC

Yes, I would also prefer that my working gtx260 gets the "normal" work. You could just add an option to the preferences that says: "if your gtx260 doesn't work, check this!"

Like you can check/uncheck astropulse or gpuwork at seti.

I really would want to have such an option available!!

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Message 13111 - Posted: 10 Oct 2009 | 9:24:04 UTC - in response to Message 13110.

Yes, I would also prefer that my working gtx260 gets the "normal" work. You could just add an option to the preferences that says: "if your gtx260 doesn't work, check this!"

Like you can check/uncheck astropulse or gpuwork at seti.

I really would want to have such an option available!!

For me at least, such an option would need to be machine specific as I have 1 260 that runs without error and 1 that errors almost every WU.

Of course, if there's no performance hit with the new 260 app, there'll be no need for the option.

But, option or not, I'd be happy just to have both my 260s running again.

and then there's my gtx295 with its GPU1 problems :(

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Message 13144 - Posted: 11 Oct 2009 | 16:15:14 UTC - in response to Message 13099.

It would not matter if you GTX260 works, then it will also work with the second application. It is just more work for us, that we need to maintain two queues.
But aren't we having 2 queues based on what you said?

Clearly only some workunits can run there, but at least we move on without waiting.


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Message 13167 - Posted: 13 Oct 2009 | 19:18:54 UTC - in response to Message 13099.

We are implementing a workaround, which is quite drastic. We will make an application just for 260 which does not use PME. Clearly only some workunits can run there, but at least we move on without waiting.
When in place, it will be advertised from the news.

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Thanx for your work on this problem! I am waiting for this application for buggy 260s.

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Message 13182 - Posted: 15 Oct 2009 | 18:57:00 UTC

I keep seeing references to this problem, but have never seen is on my own MSI 260. There's other people I know that are also running MSI without a problem. So does this bug only affect certain brands? Is it a problem with EVGA or are other brands affected?

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Message 13189 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009 | 13:08:15 UTC - in response to Message 13099.

We are implementing a workaround, which is quite drastic. We will make an application just for 260 which does not use PME. Clearly only some workunits can run there, but at least we move on without waiting.
When in place, it will be advertised from the news.

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Have you done a poll or run a query on the database to see how many 260s do not run correctly on the stock WU? Which mfg makes the 260s that do not run?

If the erroring 260 are few, it doesn't make sense to me to make extraordinary effort to support them. Maybe those cards need a firmware upgrade.

My MSI 260s run just fine.

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Message 13193 - Posted: 16 Oct 2009 | 19:51:28 UTC

I have 2 EVGA GTX 260 216 that are 55nm and run flawless.
I had 1 EVGA GTX 260 192 65nm that would not, RMA'd.
The 1 EVGA GTX 260 192 65 that I got from RMA also does not run without error.

Is it the older 260's with problems? My newer ones are great.

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Message 13200 - Posted: 17 Oct 2009 | 1:43:55 UTC - in response to Message 13193.

This could happens, I have similar experience. Was trying several times to add 4th card to perfect working trinity of ASUS GTX 260's (216C, 55 nm). 4th card was reference Nvidia (192's , 65nm).
Windows was seeing it, GPU-Z was seeing it (4th card added). Starting GPUGRID resulting of immediate crash with BSOD, with routines of memory dumps & system restart. System records say's that the reason was graphic driver. Pulling out old style reference card from the system & restarting it returns it to the normal functionality. Thinking, that the problem is flying somewhere around old 192's Core reference design card.
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Message 13204 - Posted: 17 Oct 2009 | 4:03:13 UTC

I have 2 x GTX260 (Palit brand, 216 sp). They worked fine using 182.50 drivers. After upgrading drivers they don't. 185.xx, 186.xx and 190.xx drivers don't work with GPUgrid.

The newer drivers and cuda 2.3 works fine with the Einstein cuda app (in beta testing) and the Seti cuda app, so thats what its been doing since the driver upgrades.

I see Palit dropped the GTX260 a while back, they only have the OC'ed version available and that has probably been killed off in the last week or so.
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Message 13205 - Posted: 17 Oct 2009 | 4:12:47 UTC - in response to Message 13204.

I have a GTX260/216 (55nm) (MSI) that runs GPUGrid with no problems and a GTX260/216 (65nm)(EVGA) that will not run either GPUGrid or Collative without an error. Both run 190.38 drivers.

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Message 13223 - Posted: 18 Oct 2009 | 20:24:36 UTC

6 BFG 260 216 and 2 EVGA 260 216 without any issues.

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Message 13225 - Posted: 19 Oct 2009 | 1:05:19 UTC


Looks like most 260 216s mentioned in this thread work, but not the 192s.

Does anyone have a 260 192 that works on GPUGrid?

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Message 13226 - Posted: 19 Oct 2009 | 5:37:21 UTC

Has anyone had success running a 192 core 260 on Linux? Mine were on Vista64, thinking about trying Linux.

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Message 13230 - Posted: 19 Oct 2009 | 11:25:33 UTC - in response to Message 13225.


Looks like most 260 216s mentioned in this thread work, but not the 192s.

Does anyone have a 260 192 that works on GPUGrid?



I have a 260 216 and it does not work under vistea 64 and win7 64. So I changed as many others to collatz.

sorry.

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Message 13232 - Posted: 19 Oct 2009 | 11:50:05 UTC - in response to Message 13230.

I have 2x BFG GTX260-216, both running linux

1 works, 1 fails

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Message 13238 - Posted: 20 Oct 2009 | 8:39:53 UTC - in response to Message 13230.

I have a 260 216 and it does not work under vistea 64 and win7 64. So I changed as many others to collatz.

What brand is the card, possibly EVGA?

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Message 13240 - Posted: 20 Oct 2009 | 10:45:51 UTC - in response to Message 13238.

I have a ASUS GTX 260 216sp and it does not work under win7 64. So I changed as many others to collatz.

Can we get a refound for a broken card or what?

Please tell us GDF?

Please tell us NVIDIA or ASUS?

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Message 13245 - Posted: 20 Oct 2009 | 15:53:36 UTC
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I have got an ASUS GTX 260/216 Top (factory OC) 65nm, worked fine using 182.06 drivers. After upgrading to 185.xx, 186.xx, 190.xx and 191.xx drivers doesn't work with GPUgrid. Crunching Seti CUDA VLARkillv12, Collatz, MW and Folding works fine.
Win XP x_64.

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Message 13267 - Posted: 24 Oct 2009 | 10:08:57 UTC - in response to Message 13238.

I have a 260 216 and it does not work under vistea 64 and win7 64. So I changed as many others to collatz.

What brand is the card, possibly EVGA?



That is a GAINWARD-card

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Message 13298 - Posted: 28 Oct 2009 | 11:57:14 UTC - in response to Message 13099.

We are implementing a workaround, which is quite drastic. We will make an application just for 260 which does not use PME. Clearly only some workunits can run there, but at least we move on without waiting.
When in place, it will be advertised from the news.

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This staement was from1oth October. Is the new application for the 260 available now?

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Message 13338 - Posted: 31 Oct 2009 | 20:16:07 UTC - in response to Message 13298.

Our experience with gainward was very bad. The one we tried had a different dissipation system which were working very poorly with temperatures above of 100 degrees. These were GTX275.

With temperatures up to 92 degrees on other cards we had no problems.

For the 260, we have not done anything yet as there are people which can run on it.

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Message 13388 - Posted: 6 Nov 2009 | 18:16:41 UTC

i WAS getting errors with my GTX260 until i STOPPED overclocking my CPU
since then no errors at all!

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Message 13392 - Posted: 6 Nov 2009 | 20:53:00 UTC - in response to Message 13338.

Our experience with gainward was very bad. The one we tried had a different dissipation system which were working very poorly with temperatures above of 100 degrees. These were GTX275.

With temperatures up to 92 degrees on other cards we had no problems.

For the 260, we have not done anything yet as there are people which can run on it.

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Ok, then still waiting.

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Message 13515 - Posted: 12 Nov 2009 | 10:16:10 UTC

Waiting as yet!

Is there any progress? :-)
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Message 13599 - Posted: 18 Nov 2009 | 15:36:09 UTC

Seems that volunteer's questions are remaining without response here... It's OK, we are still waiting...
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Message 13634 - Posted: 20 Nov 2009 | 22:39:09 UTC

Still waiting too........

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Message 13635 - Posted: 21 Nov 2009 | 0:36:28 UTC

I sold my problem GTX 260 192 core 65nm. Kept the 2 55nm that do fine. The older 65nm cards are a problem for all but games. When new cards come out, like Fermi, and are available the prices will drop so the GTX 260 will be worth less. So sell while it is still worth a decent price.

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Message 13650 - Posted: 22 Nov 2009 | 15:31:23 UTC - in response to Message 13635.
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There are many GTX260 cards. Not all are good and not all are bad.

I had a GTX260 192 that could not finish a single GPUGRID task. It normally worked fine, but just was not up to the rigours of GPUGRID.
The same was true for Aqua but I think it did do Milkyway tasks, these tasks being very short.

I got rid of that bulky single fanned card, but I kept my similarly rated GTS250, as this still works fine!

At present I have one Palit GTX260 sonic 216sp http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/w6pes/. This is an excellent card, both in terms of its design, with 2 fans and 55nm architecture, and the performance (Boinc rating of 582 GFlops peak) – about 25% better than a GTX260 192sp that actually works. I can even overclock it by about 12% and get consistently good results, though I choose to run it natively as I want it, the Mobo and PSU to all last on this system. It normally stays below 70degrees Celsius, cooler than my GTS250 and much cooler than the long gone GTX260 192sp.

So I think a 65nm GTX 260 192sp with one fan is much more likely to run hot and cause errors.

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Message 13658 - Posted: 23 Nov 2009 | 5:18:01 UTC

Well, I have tried to run a couple WUS without overclocking, without using PC at all and with speedup videocard's fan from 90 to 100% (note, that usually it rotates at 40% of maximum speed), so as with maximum air flow through my PC's case (3R Systems Air 400, Hiper PS). But there was always the same famous fft-error.

By the way, now I am trying to see the destiny of another 2 WUs (downloaded because I have upgraded my videodriver a couple days ago (190.42, Linux x64)). In "NVidia X Server Settings" it shows that GPU is on 80-81 C, will see what happen...
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Message 13678 - Posted: 24 Nov 2009 | 10:26:08 UTC - in response to Message 13658.

Just a note about fast fans on your card. I have an ATI 4850 crunching folding@home. It was running quite hot and the fan started to go round very fast. Then there were errors reported saying that the fan was causing vibrations and the project stopped running.
I removed 2 case blocks (for other cards) from the rear, below the video card, put a large fan at the front of the case, blowing directly onto the video card and removed the case side pannel.
The result was that the cards fan slowed down and GPU was about 15 degrees coolder, and I started to finish tasks.

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Message 13679 - Posted: 24 Nov 2009 | 11:35:49 UTC - in response to Message 13678.

Many cards take little account of any heat flow inside a typical case.

Unless it blows all the air out the back of the case, some hot air will circulate around the card, inside the case, creating a hot spot.

From your case pictures I can imagine the cool air comming in from the front, and almost bypassing the GPU altogether, going out via the rear fan - especially if the card sits close to the bottom of the case.

A better design of case would have a side fan on the door, blowing out, situated just below or level with the graphics card.

Is it a GTX260 192 or 216?

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Message 13694 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009 | 8:26:55 UTC - in response to Message 13658.

There are still errors...
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Message 13696 - Posted: 25 Nov 2009 | 12:32:24 UTC - in response to Message 13694.

use GPU-Z to see what the temperatures are doing.
If they are consistantly over 80 it could be the source of the problem.

If not then the card just is not up to the task. Try hooking up to Milky way at home. GPU tasks should complete in a few minutes, os there wont be so many errors.

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Message 13749 - Posted: 1 Dec 2009 | 17:53:05 UTC - in response to Message 13696.

My Palit GTX260 216sp has successfully completed the last 33 GPUGRID tasks in a row - about 2 weeks work, and on a Vista Ult 64bit machine!
Driver Version 19038, CUDA Version 2030, CC 1.3, 582 GFlops (Boinc).

The other 2 cards I use on GPUGRID finish less than 40%
One is a GTS250 and one is an 8800 512MB.

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Message 14175 - Posted: 11 Jan 2010 | 16:27:47 UTC
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Would it be reasonable to ask the BOINC developers to add code to report more details about what specific type of chip the GPU board uses, in order to help gather more information about which GTX260 boards work with GPUGRID? Or would it be more reasonable to add such code to your application instead, so that even most failed workunits would be able to send back such information?

Also, since the GTX260 boards work better with the CUDA 2.1 drivers, would it be reasonable to try a GTX260-specific version of the application that was compiled using the CUDA 2.1 SDK, but without many other changes? If such a version works well, you could even make the same application available for some of any other Nvidia boards that work well with CUDA 2.1 drivers, but not with the more recent drivers.

An idea to consider to eliminate some of the separate queues: Put more than one version of the application code into each workunit, along with a program that does little more than select which of the application versions to use.

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Message 14184 - Posted: 12 Jan 2010 | 21:33:24 UTC - in response to Message 14175.
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I think that in the long term it will be essential for most projects to be able to better determine hardware and allocate tasks accordingly.
It makes sense that the Boinc developers do this, rather than have each individual project try to write their own code. However, they have not done this yet.
So problems like this one remain serious issues for some projects.

If all the required information is not available (core version), perhaps a crude method of task allocation would be to base it on Boinc calculated GFlops ratings (the 65nm GT200 cards Gflops may be distinguishable from the rest):
There are 3 distinct bands of real world Boinc ratings for the GTX 260. Fortunately none of these cards reach the performance of the GTX 275 and all are noticeably better than Cuda Capable 1.1 cards.
The 9800x2 is viewed as two distinct cards, each with a lesser rating than a GTX 260 sp192.
Although the GTX 260 sp216 GT200b looks as though it might be an issue with the GTX 295, as these are seen as two individual cards with only slightly better performance than the 55nm GTX 260, there is not a task problem with the GTX 260 sp216 GT200b version – so you would only need to isolate the other 2 cards.

The 3 distinct versions of the GeForce GTX 260:
The sp192 using a 65nm GT200 core
The sp216 using a 65nm GT200 core
The sp216 using a 55nm GT200b core
The problem cards use the 65nm GT200 rather than the 55nm GT200b core architecture.

Aside - The industry published default GFlops ratings are 715, 805 and 874 respectively and the TDP values are 182, 182, 171 respectively.
In reality these vary by up to about 20% due to factory overclocking of the core, shaders &/or memory. Due to the smaller, 55nm, core the sp216 GT200b cards tend to be clocked higher and therefore offer greater performance (distinct from the GT200).

I would say that the isolation range would roughly be between, 480 Boinc GFlops and 505 Boinc GFlops (to identify the 65nm GT200 cores).
Just above the top GeForce 9800 GTX+ and GTS 250 (475 Boinc GFlops), and just below the tamer GTX 260 55nm GT200 (510 Boinc GFlops).
Of course you could err on the side of caution, as the tasks would still run well presumably?

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Message 15154 - Posted: 11 Feb 2010 | 20:07:08 UTC - in response to Message 13099.

I still got 80 percent errors on my 260s. Maybe the developers should have a quiet talk with the guys from collatz? After wasting some time here i am again back to collatz. Will check again in 30 days.

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Message 15163 - Posted: 12 Feb 2010 | 1:15:55 UTC - in response to Message 15154.
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Change your project application preferences, you are using the old application, as I was!

Goto Your account, select GPUGrid Preferences, Select Edit GPUGrid Prefernces, and Deselect ACEMD - leaving ACEMD 2 (the new application).

http://www.gpugrid.net/prefs.php?subset=project

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Message 15165 - Posted: 12 Feb 2010 | 9:33:11 UTC - in response to Message 15163.

The problem with CUDA FFT on some 260 cards is still there. The new application does not solve it. We are working on eliminating the CUDAFFT all together.

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Message 15168 - Posted: 12 Feb 2010 | 10:20:03 UTC - in response to Message 15165.

If the ACEMD 2 project runs 60% faster then there would be less chance of any error for any given task. Therefore any given task is more likely to complete and overall more work will be done by users that experience FFT errors.

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Message 15420 - Posted: 25 Feb 2010 | 4:33:01 UTC - in response to Message 13106.

It would not matter if you GTX260 works, then it will also work with the second application. It is just more work for us, that we need to maintain two queues.

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An alternate plan to consider: put both application programs in each workunit, along with a script to choose which one of them to actually use. If the 260-only program can still handle all workunits, that should eliminate the second queue.

A questionable idea if the 260-only application gives enough difference in outputs, though.

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Message 15585 - Posted: 3 Mar 2010 | 18:07:50 UTC

Does new 6.15 beta application for Linux solve the bug?
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Message 16530 - Posted: 25 Apr 2010 | 9:39:36 UTC

Any progress on the GTX 260 issue? Resolved? Still working on it? Not going to be fixed?

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Message 16531 - Posted: 25 Apr 2010 | 11:03:02 UTC - in response to Message 16530.

As far as I know there has been no progress on this front at GPUGrid, however there is another application in the final stages of development, 6.72; it is possible that this may resolve some of the issues crunching with the older 65nm versions of the GTX 260 (effects the older GT200 cards, but not the newer GT200b).

On a positive note, the latest recommended Boinc versions (6.10.43) do facilitate GPU crunching stability much more effectively. My take on this (which might be wrong) is that if a GPU task fails, it tries to pick up at the tasks last restore point (a few minutes in the past) and starts from there again.
So, I would suggest you upgrade to the latest Boinc release and run some of the present tasks 6.03. As these run in about 6h for a GTX 260 their shorter time period offers better chances of completion. Note, any Long Tasks have “long” in their name!
At the minute I am mostly picking up these shorter tasks, the ones you should try first.

If you get a reasonable success rate with these tasks, then start crunching again. If not come back in a few days and check if the 6.72 app has been released, choose to only run that app, and have another go.

Good luck,

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Message 16536 - Posted: 25 Apr 2010 | 17:54:32 UTC - in response to Message 16531.

Nvidia told us that the problem is solved with CUDA3, but we did not check it.

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Message 16550 - Posted: 26 Apr 2010 | 9:25:23 UTC - in response to Message 16536.

Nvidia told us that the problem is solved with CUDA3, but we did not check it.

gdf

I have checked it, 6.72 tasks erroed out even on the underclocked one. Time to time a short test task finished OK.
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Message 16551 - Posted: 26 Apr 2010 | 9:56:56 UTC - in response to Message 16550.

That's delivering cuda3 only to Fermi cards.
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Message 16568 - Posted: 26 Apr 2010 | 17:47:59 UTC - in response to Message 16551.
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Sorry, short test 3.0 tasks you have sent to GTX260 a weeks ago are deleted. I haven´t noticed it. Thanks for explaining of using 3.0 for Fermi cards only.

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Message 17009 - Posted: 13 May 2010 | 19:55:10 UTC

so is this problem fixed yet? i have two gtx260's, one is working fine, the other one is a 65nm core216 and doesn't work. please let me know if there's hope in holding on to this card for a future fix, or if i should just sell this card because there won't be any plans to problem.

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Message 17022 - Posted: 14 May 2010 | 8:37:51 UTC - in response to Message 16568.

Sorry, short test 3.0 tasks you have sent to GTX260 a weeks ago are deleted. I haven´t noticed it. Thanks for explaining of using 3.0 for Fermi cards only.


The reason is that Fermi require 3.0 tasks, while for other cards the code compiled with 3.0 is slower.
I can change the server to deliver also to GTX260.

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Message 17024 - Posted: 14 May 2010 | 9:54:01 UTC - in response to Message 17022.


The reason is that Fermi require 3.0 tasks, while for other cards the code compiled with 3.0 is slower.
I can change the server to deliver also to GTX260.

gdf[/quote]

Yes please, better a bit too slow than nothing at all.

kind regards

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Message 17028 - Posted: 14 May 2010 | 10:37:09 UTC - in response to Message 17024.

This will be interesting!

You might want to make it clear what to select here,
ACEMD: ACEMD ver 2.0: ACEMD beta:

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Message 17031 - Posted: 14 May 2010 | 12:33:53 UTC - in response to Message 17022.

The reason is that Fermi require 3.0 tasks, while for other cards the code compiled with 3.0 is slower.
I can change the server to deliver also to GTX260.

gdf

Hopefully that won't send the slower code to all the good GTX 260 cards too. Slowing them all down to fix just a few is not so good. You could possibly make a new choice in preferences with a different queue:

ACEMD: no
ACEMD ver 2.0: no
ACEMD beta: no
GTX260/65nm only: yes

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ACEMD: no
ACEMD ver 2.0: no
ACEMD beta: no
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Message 17224 - Posted: 22 May 2010 | 16:54:47 UTC

so are these updated to accept fermi WU's yet?

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Message 17228 - Posted: 22 May 2010 | 22:51:06 UTC - in response to Message 17224.

Fermis already work.

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Message 17237 - Posted: 23 May 2010 | 21:59:33 UTC - in response to Message 17228.

I am Ubuntu 32 bit with 260-216--does it not run on 32 bit??

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Message 17346 - Posted: 26 May 2010 | 16:59:41 UTC - in response to Message 17237.

gpugrid is 64 bit only on Linux. Time to upgrade anyways. 64 bit is where its at.

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Message 17541 - Posted: 7 Jun 2010 | 20:16:30 UTC - in response to Message 17022.

The reason is that Fermi require 3.0 tasks, while for other cards the code compiled with 3.0 is slower.
I can change the server to deliver also to GTX260.
gdf
I recieve cuda (not cuda30) tasks for my unusable 65nm GTX260. Could you add a checkbox to choose standard cuda23 or cuda30 for non-Fermi class GPU?

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Message 17969 - Posted: 15 Jul 2010 | 0:05:38 UTC
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I would like to buy the new gtx460 to use on gpugrid.. will it work?


does anyone have the gtx460 card working without errors on gpugrid?

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Message 18138 - Posted: 22 Jul 2010 | 14:53:49 UTC

i have a gtx260 that always failed the tasks..
1. i've installed the newest nvidia driver
2. installed cuda 3.1
3. installed the newest Boinc manager

it still gives errors and doesn't complete the task
suggestions?

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Message 18139 - Posted: 22 Jul 2010 | 15:53:02 UTC - in response to Message 18138.
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Your GTX260 can only run 6.05 tasks, so it does not use CUDA3.1. You also have the 192 shader version, which tends to be much more error prone.
You are using Windows 7 Ultimate x64. I found that almost all tasks failed on my GTX260-216 when I used it with Windows 7 x64, so I installed Win XP x86 and now almost all tasks complete successfully. I also ran FatPuppy Linux on the card for abou 10days, and again virtually all tasks completed.
If you can use a different operating system you might want to try your card on XP or Linux. See GPUGRID on a stick. HOW TO

As for GTX460 cards. They are now working here (and use CUDA 3.1 on the 6.11 application).

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Message 18140 - Posted: 22 Jul 2010 | 16:05:10 UTC - in response to Message 18139.

You are using Windows 7 Ultimate x64. I found that almost all tasks failed on my GTX260 when I used it with Windows 7 x64, so I installed Win XP x86 and now almost all tasks complete successfully. I also ran FatPuppy Linux on the card for abou 10days, and again virtually all tasks completed.

The above advice is irrelevant. SK, he's using the 192 shader GTX 260 with the bug and yours is the 216 shader version. Why you ever had problems with your 216 shader GTX 260 is mysterious. It should run fine with any OS.

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Message 18620 - Posted: 11 Sep 2010 | 1:00:09 UTC

Is the project working along to solve this??

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Message 19172 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010 | 14:02:29 UTC
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6.11 tasks (CUDA 3.1) errored out on GTX 260 65nm - rev. A. Win XP x_64, driver 2650.99

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Message 19173 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010 | 15:05:57 UTC - in response to Message 18620.
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Is the project working along to solve this??


It's not a problem the project can fix by itself. It has been an issue from the outset with some of the 65nm GTX260's cards and could only be fixed by a driver and through the CUDA developers app, both written by NVidia.

My guess is that the odd 65nm GTX260-192 that works may have newer firmware/ use a different revision.

lkiller123, what revision is your card and have you tried to run tasks at reference speeds?
I think there is a snowball's chance in hell of a 65nm OC'd GTX260-192 crunching GPUGrid tasks in the same system as another OC'd GTX260.
In the past I struggled with 2 such cards and could get neither to work here. One ran MW tasks reasonably well, failing only the odd one, and I think worked on Folding but the other card was a deal loss.

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Message 19174 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010 | 15:48:38 UTC - in response to Message 19173.

Is there a way to update the firmware? My limping GTX260 is unusable here and I'm willing to try everything to get it working here.

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Message 19175 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010 | 16:42:53 UTC - in response to Message 19174.

Basically No. As far as I am aware the Bios (firmware/instruction set) is fixed at the factory and NVidia want to keep it that way.

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Message 19183 - Posted: 1 Nov 2010 | 20:00:35 UTC - in response to Message 19173.

Here are the GPU-Z shots of both cards:

65nm:

55nm:

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Message 19193 - Posted: 2 Nov 2010 | 12:44:50 UTC - in response to Message 19183.

Found a possible utility to update some cards.
It's called, NVidia Firmware Update Utility.

I am not reccomending that anyone use this, nor have I tested it. I'm just saying that it does exist, and some people have used it for some cards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO2uXNQkubQ

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Message 19203 - Posted: 2 Nov 2010 | 22:33:12 UTC

Thanks for the video. I will give it a shot sometime soon.

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